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Hands from Illini Regional III Bidding Quiz

Poll: What do you bid? (28 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you bid?

  1. Pass (9 votes [32.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.14%

  2. Double (1 votes [3.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

  3. 5H (2 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  4. 6D (16 votes [57.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.14%

  5. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   redbird97 

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Posted 2007-May-28, 23:38

Scoring: IMP




West North East South

1S P 2S Double
3c 4H 4S P
P 5d 5S ?
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Posted 2007-May-28, 23:49

5 and let the director sort it out :)
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
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Posted 2007-May-28, 23:51

I pass. I'm not going to bid at the 6-level with 2 (almost) sure defensive tricks, yet I do not want to discourage partner from doing so.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-May-28, 23:56

I would have bid 5H over 4S, now I'd bid 6D (to make, as a save, who knows).
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Posted 2007-May-29, 00:04

redbird97, on May 29 2007, 12:38 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP




West North East South

1S P 2S Double
3c 4H 4S P
P 5d 5S ?

Object strongly to double of 2 spades..see numerous other posts.
Prefer 3d here over 2 spades.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 00:13

mike777, on May 29 2007, 01:04 AM, said:

Object strongly to double of 2 spades..see numerous other posts.
Prefer 3d here over 2 spades.

Lol what other posts? There isn't even another conceivable action over 2, for anyone beginner to expert. Larry Cohen (and anyone else) doesn't NEVER double with a void, he just chooses the other action when there is a choice. Here there is no choice.

Agree with the others I bid now because I would have raised last round.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 00:17

I have discussed often my concern over making takeout x's with a void. See Bergen/cohen

3d can lead to a sane auction.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 01:30

PS Congratulations on your results, 1st in teams and a couple of other significant placings.
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
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Posted 2007-May-29, 02:39

6 I think we'll make (won't redouble though)
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Posted 2007-May-29, 03:19

Double on the first round was obvious, I think 5 on the next round was equally obvious. Now it's 6 for me.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 03:27

I think it's about 75% or more that at least one of 5 or 6red makes. Passing doesn't make sense.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 03:52

Hi,

6D, I have 9 cards for partner, a spade void
and the AK in clubs, I wont pass.

If partner is not at least 5-5 (and 6-5 is more
likely) he can explain it on the bar, and until
I he convinced me he did the right thing, he has pays,
most likely I am stoned before he has achieved the
convincing.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2007-May-29, 03:55

I want to have a good look at RHO. I can't see how LHO's 3C bid can have improved RHO's hand so much that suddenly a 2S bid on the first round is worth bidding to 5S now in front of partner when I am looking at the AK of clubs.

So if RHO looks as if he was walking the dog, 6D.
If RHO looks clueless, double.

p.s. I can see no possible alternative to double on the first round.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 05:49

I voted pass but I'm not that happy with a non-forcing pass that I would like to be forcing. I wish I'd bid something last round. Not sure what, though. In retrospect, 5 would have been perfect, but 5 is more realistic. Oh wait, I want a club lead of course.......
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Posted 2007-May-29, 06:03

Pass. I don' think either 5S or 6D makes.

Like other posters, I would have bid 5H the previous round.

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Posted 2007-May-29, 06:34

Prefer 5 1 round earlier... Now I pass.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 06:41

I made an timid little OBAR double and partner has barrelled to 5 bidding hearts along the way all by himself. And I have absolute control in clubs and spades, and great diamonds?

I don't know what is making, but I can not sit here with all this stuff and pass now. I will bid 6-- maybe it makes, maybe not. I suspect if partner leads a club, we get two clubs and a club ruff against 5, but he might not lead that.

We might make, they might take a 6 save, they might make 5. But it is imps, we ae not vul, and 6 will not be hurt too much (other than going minus at both tables if 5 is not making).
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Posted 2007-May-29, 06:47

inquiry, on May 29 2007, 02:41 PM, said:

I will bid 6-- maybe it makes, maybe not. I suspect if partner leads a club, we get two clubs and a club ruff against 5, but he might not lead that.

Couldn't you bid 6, then, just in case they bid 6? 6 must be lead-directing, based on a diamonds fit, especially since you didn't bid clubs before partner bid diamonds.

Or would it be better to bid 6 and then double 6 for a lead in the unbid suit? Would partner take it that way?
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Posted 2007-May-29, 07:31

For what it is worth, I bid 6d at the table. My reasoning for not bidding 5h was my fear partner might play me for more than a 12 count and a void. I bid 6d to make. The hand result is 6d down 1, 5s is down 3.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 09:40

I slept on this hand and came to the conclusion that 6D is the right bid. And now it turns out that pass is the winning call, sjees! Could you post the full hand?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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