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♥AJ762
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Just another typical hand reopen?
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Posted 2007-June-01, 04:22
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Posted 2007-June-01, 04:26
Isn't this a textbook double?
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Posted 2007-June-01, 04:33
I've read the same book as Frances.
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Posted 2007-June-01, 06:51
I'll join the above club and say obvious double as well.
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Posted 2007-June-01, 07:13
I am very much illiterate, but I would X like the previous posters.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2007-June-01, 08:01
Fluffy, on Jun 1 2007, 05:22 AM, said:
MP nobody Vul, South is dealer
S - W - N - E
ps-3♠-ps-ps
??
♠3
♥AJ762
♦K1082
♣J72
S - W - N - E
ps-3♠-ps-ps
??
♠3
♥AJ762
♦K1082
♣J72
I would pass if I were an unpassed hand.
Since I passed to start with, why not?
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Posted 2007-June-01, 08:22
Double
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Posted 2007-June-01, 08:31
Double, but I'm aware of the possibility the opponents may be playing 3♠ on a ugly misfit, so this may backfire.
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Posted 2007-June-01, 12:26
Pass would be my standard choice but some would depend on how RHO passed and what kind of risks I needed to take.
Just because we are a passed hand and don't show the world by Xing I don't think we have to commit to such a high level. We don't have very much here and I think this is just stretching it too far with no values.
For me a "textbook" X would be x Axxx Axxx Kxxx (which is an opening bid to some people I know). Yes this means I don't pass and then balance at the 3 level very much but I think that is not a problem. Perhaps I am offbase here because most people I know and respect X with these type of hands but I've just never seen the wisdom in it.
Just because we are a passed hand and don't show the world by Xing I don't think we have to commit to such a high level. We don't have very much here and I think this is just stretching it too far with no values.
For me a "textbook" X would be x Axxx Axxx Kxxx (which is an opening bid to some people I know). Yes this means I don't pass and then balance at the 3 level very much but I think that is not a problem. Perhaps I am offbase here because most people I know and respect X with these type of hands but I've just never seen the wisdom in it.
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Posted 2007-June-01, 13:24
gonna dbl
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Posted 2007-June-01, 18:16
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Double, but I'm aware of the possibility the opponents may be playing 3♠ on a ugly misfit, so this may backfire.
Then our double will be left in, and most likely we'll kill them.
If we're playing opposite a partner who might pass a balanced 16 hoping that we could reopen with short spades, don't we have to do it here?
I've never run into this problem at the table. If we would have gotten torched, I won't do it again.
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Posted 2007-June-01, 18:26
Jlall, on Jun 1 2007, 09:26 PM, said:
Pass would be my standard choice but some would depend on how RHO passed and what kind of risks I needed to take.
Just because we are a passed hand and don't show the world by Xing I don't think we have to commit to such a high level. We don't have very much here and I think this is just stretching it too far with no values.
For me a "textbook" X would be x Axxx Axxx Kxxx (which is an opening bid to some people I know). Yes this means I don't pass and then balance at the 3 level very much but I think that is not a problem. Perhaps I am offbase here because most people I know and respect X with these type of hands but I've just never seen the wisdom in it.
Just because we are a passed hand and don't show the world by Xing I don't think we have to commit to such a high level. We don't have very much here and I think this is just stretching it too far with no values.
For me a "textbook" X would be x Axxx Axxx Kxxx (which is an opening bid to some people I know). Yes this means I don't pass and then balance at the 3 level very much but I think that is not a problem. Perhaps I am offbase here because most people I know and respect X with these type of hands but I've just never seen the wisdom in it.
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Posted 2007-June-01, 19:01
I would double. In my experience it just seems to work.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-June-01, 19:11
voted pass here
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Posted 2007-June-01, 19:53
Pass for me. That H suit just looks a little too tatty. I have played with partners who double on hands like this and often they are right, though.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2007-June-02, 01:49
Foxx, on Jun 2 2007, 02:16 AM, said:
If we're playing opposite a partner who might pass a balanced 16 hoping that we could reopen with short spades, don't we have to do it here?
My partners would bid 3NT with that hand, so that's not an issue.
Still, double might be right. To me this is very close between pass and double. I really don't know what I would do. I'd have to be at the table.
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Posted 2007-June-03, 11:33
Who is sitting on 16hcp here?
Partner with no good call?
Or RHO waiting to crack any 4-level bid?
Or is missing hcp 9-7-12-12, when 4-level needs right placed honors: only my DK,HJ?
Pass wins most often. RHO's tell may persuade me.
Partner with no good call?
Or RHO waiting to crack any 4-level bid?
Or is missing hcp 9-7-12-12, when 4-level needs right placed honors: only my DK,HJ?
Pass wins most often. RHO's tell may persuade me.
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Posted 2007-June-03, 15:41
Hi,
it depends a lot on the style of the 3S opener,
green vs. green in 2nd seat, it should be sound,
but some may it play more loose (
) and if this
were the case, you should pass, because the partner
of the 3S bidder may just be waiting, ... but so
may partner.
With kind regards
Marlowe
it depends a lot on the style of the 3S opener,
green vs. green in 2nd seat, it should be sound,
but some may it play more loose (
) and if thiswere the case, you should pass, because the partner
of the 3S bidder may just be waiting, ... but so
may partner.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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