[redbird97]

Scoring: IMP

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Sitting North with silent opponents you open 1H and partner responds 2H

[Echognome]

I debated on this hand, but am going to go with 3♠ splinter (if available). I want to start partner cue-bidding. If he bids 3NT, I'll be content with a 4♥ call.* If he bids 4♣, then it's trickier, and I will go with 4♦ and see if I can't get a 4♠ call out of him (although I imagine I'll have a bit of a problem over his likely 4♥ response). If he bids 4♦, then I'm simply bringing out the ol' black. If he bids 4♥, I will let it go.

*Here I think it might make sense to give an alternative meaning to a 3NT bid, but will not assume it for the partnership.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

3C.

I have several question
- overall strength, has he min / max for his 2H bid
- honor placement

3C may burn space, if partner jumps to 4H without
showing values on the side, but maybe I hear 3D (great)
or 3S (bad), which answer both questions
And even after a 4H bid I known, that the 5 level will be fairly
safe, i.e. I can bid 4NT.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Fluffy]

3♠, If partner can't cue 4♦ I'll still bid 4NT and hope he has both keycards

[Codo]

I need A of Spade King of Hearts and King of Diamonds for a good grand. I need one KC for a bad smal slam.
If I have no special agreement, how to aks pd for controls in suits, I will simply bid 4 NT, else I would bid 3 Club or 2 NT, whatever bid asks for controls up the line.
A question for minimax does not realy help. KQJx, Jxx, QJx,xxx is pretty much max but no help. Axxx,JTxx,xxx,xx is submin but Slam is on the finesse.

[Echognome]

Codo, on May 30 2007, 12:13 AM, said:

I need A of Spade King of Hearts and King of Diamonds for a good grand. I need one KC for a bad smal slam.
If I have no special agreement, how to aks pd for controls in suits, I will simply bid 4 NT, else I would bid 3 Club or 2 NT, whatever bid asks for controls up the line.
A question for minimax does not realy help. KQJx, Jxx, QJx,xxx is pretty much max but no help. Axxx,JTxx,xxx,xx is submin but Slam is on the finesse.

As far as I'm aware, 3♠ is the cheapest bid to start eliciting cuebids. I suppose you can argue that 2NT followed by 3♠ over 3♥ might elicit cuebids equivalently. However, partner can cross your intentions easier by jumping to 4♥ with one of those max hands without great controls. So why not tell partner about your singleton spade? He might be looking at ♠xxx or the ♠A and know that his hand fits well.

[Codo]

Echognome, on May 30 2007, 05:18 PM, said:

As far as I'm aware, 3♠ is the cheapest bid to start eliciting cuebids. I suppose you can argue that 2NT followed by 3♠ over 3♥ might elicit cuebids equivalently. However, partner can cross your intentions easier by jumping to 4♥ with one of those max hands without great controls. So why not tell partner about your singleton spade? He might be looking at ♠xxx or the ♠A and know that his hand fits well.

I am not sure about this. I prefer to play asking bids after splinters and I have no idea what mainstream is.
But luckily I know what my regular partners play and sometimes I even remember it.

[P_Marlowe]

Echognome, on May 30 2007, 03:18 AM, said:

As far as I'm aware, 3♠ is the cheapest bid to start eliciting cuebids.  I suppose you can argue that 2NT followed by 3♠ over 3♥ might elicit cuebids equivalently.  However, partner can cross your intentions easier by jumping to 4♥ with one of those max hands without great controls.  So why not tell partner about your singleton spade?  He might be looking at ♠xxx or the ♠A and know that his hand fits well.

Hi,

it is more a question, what you want to hear.
You have all suits under control, i.e. you dont
need a cue, you need to know his honor locations.

3C does not force partner to cue, but he should
bid side values, and he will bid 3D, if he has a
mediocrite hand with diamonds value.

After 3S you have to guess, why he did bid 4H,
because he has wastage in spades or because
he is min (this assumes, that he has the right
to ignore a cue in case he is min, obviously a matter
of partnership agreement).
Bidding 4NT is a guess, and I would ask you, why
bid 3S, if you intend to bid 4NT anyway over 4H.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[whereagles]

4NT. KISS

[Edmunte1]

3♠. Even 4♥ could be in danger if partener has lost points in ♠ (KQx xxx Q10xx xxx for example)

[mike777]

RKC. Kiss

I assume 2h is constructive.

btw I would have opened this hand 2clubs.

[mcphee]

I make the splinter in S and hope to hear 4D. A direct KC 4NT is an open option. I do not agree this hand should be opened 2C.

[inquiry]

I don't like 3♠ because if partner has ♠AK and ♥K he will never see the spade king as useful. It is.

So, hopefully I am playing Kantar RKCB. I will bid 4NT, settling for a hopeful 6♥ if missing one keycard. If he has two, I will use kantar asking bids to investigate further.

[jillybean]

3♠, now I'll read the expert replies

I expect my partner to cue after 3♠ even with a minimum, I'll bid 4nt over 4♥

[Apollo81]

I think I'd bid RKC

[jdonn]

I would probably bid 3♣ in case we belong in clubs which is very possible, then over 3♥ follow with 4♦, which should get partner to evaluate correctly in the context of his having shown a minimum already. If partner has just heart king and diamond king and out that is not good enough in my opinion to cuebid over 3♠. I admit either blasting 4NT or bidding 3♦ to discourage the lead could definitely work, but it's just not my style. I will steal fewer 'bad' slams, but get to more making 6♣ and 7♣ when it is there and reach my good slams.

[foo]

redbird97, on May 30 2007, 02:36 AM, said:

♠x♥AQxxxx♦Ax♣AKQx

Sitting North with silent opponents you open 1H and partner responds 2H

...and I go slamming.

"Paging Ken Rexford. Mr Rexford to the bidding forums please."

3♣ Advance Cue followed by 4♦ if pard tries to sign off in 3♥