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#1 User is offline   DWM 

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Posted 2007-August-10, 06:00



P opens

1 - 2 (inverted)
2NT

2NT shows 13/14 points and stops in all outside suits

What is the best way to explore how high we should be in NT?

If cue bidding we play it can be an Ace or King
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Posted 2007-August-10, 06:25

You might want to play in diamonds, not NT.
If partner has something like

AQx
J10xx
Qxxx
Ax

then 6D is (very nearly) cold, and 6NT is (very nearly) certainly off on a club lead.

Personally, I would assume that 3D over 2NT was non-forcing, so I would not do that.

At imps, I would bid 4D, which should pretty much be a command for partner to cue bid. I will know if his major suit cue bid is the ace or the king.

This gives him the chance to sign off in 4NT with a horrible hand full of soft stuff (QJx Jxx QJxx KQJx). It simplifies the auction when he cues a major suit ace. It does however mean that we will play in 5D rather than 3NT/4NT when missing both major suit aces.

At matchpoints, I would bid 3H and see what he does. If he has very little in the way of controls he will sign off in 3NT. If he has nice aces and kings he will do something more encouraging. I might miss a diamond slam this way; that is the cost for trying to play in NT.
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Posted 2007-August-10, 06:32

Hi,

It is 3NT or 6D.

The form of scoring matters.

3H, in case we play MP,
4D, in case we play IMP.

The main problem with 3H is, that
it is not 100% a cue, it could also
be an expression of doubt about 3NT
being the right contract.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2007-August-10, 06:45

We were playing in MP's but we usually play in IMP's so interested in both situations.

With the 3H or 4D bids you will get 3S or 4H back. If you bid 4D and get 4H back we could still be A and AK off, so going beyond 4NT could be missing the last making spot. Am I being too pesamistic here?

I guess the 7 level is forgotten about as it woudl need a very exact hand including

A
AJxx

A
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Posted 2007-August-10, 06:59

DWM, on Aug 10 2007, 07:45 AM, said:

We were playing in MP's but we usually play in IMP's so interested in both situations.

With the 3H or 4D bids you will get 3S or 4H back. If you bid 4D and get 4H back we could still be A and AK off, so going beyond 4NT could be missing the last making spot. Am I being too pesamistic here?

I guess the 7 level is forgotten about as it woudl need a very exact hand including

A
AJxx

A

Hi,

#1 if I hear 3S over 3H, I bid 4D, which should
make it clear to partner, that I dont have a
club control
#2 if I hear 4H over 4D, I bid 4S, which should
also make it clear to partner, that I dont have
a club control
I dont fear, that 5D is going down.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2007-August-10, 08:48

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