Curious about Super-Accepts
#1
Posted 2007-October-05, 14:27
1. Does a super-accept require 4+ support for the major?
2. If so, what is a new suit after 2NT-transfer-puppet-3NT?
3. If not, what is a new suit after 2NT-transfer-puppet-3NT?
This came up in a discussion of a specific hand. Opener holds ♠Kxx ♥AJx ♦AKxxx ♣Ax and opens 2NT (I agree). Partner transfers to hearts. I personally would super-accept the transfer with ♠Kxx ♥AQx ♦AKxxx ♣Ax; curious of others' thoughts.
Anyway, Opener bids 3♥. Responder bids 3NT. For me, this is good enough to super-accept becaause my failure to super-accept the transfer immediately means that I'm a tad lighter; curious of others' thoughts here, as well.
-P.J. Painter.
#2
Posted 2007-October-05, 14:42
#3
Posted 2007-October-05, 14:43
#4
Posted 2007-October-05, 14:51
After partner's 3NT call, bidding a new suit shows a hand with three trumps but good controls (cuebid).
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#5
Posted 2007-October-05, 15:54
It clarifies auction such as 2N 3H 3S 4D 4H, which is now cooperating with a diamond slam try.
#6
Posted 2007-October-05, 17:29
cherdano, on Oct 5 2007, 04:54 PM, said:
It clarifies auction such as 2N 3H 3S 4D 4H, which is now cooperating with a diamond slam try.
So, playing that, what would a new minor show (2N 3D 3H 3N 4m)? What would your thoughts be with Kxx-AJx-AKxxx-Ax or Kxx-AQx-AKxxx-Ax?
-P.J. Painter.
#7
Posted 2007-October-05, 17:31
kenrexford, on Oct 5 2007, 05:29 PM, said:
cherdano, on Oct 5 2007, 04:54 PM, said:
It clarifies auction such as 2N 3H 3S 4D 4H, which is now cooperating with a diamond slam try.
So, playing that, what would a new minor show (2N 3D 3H 3N 4m)? What would your thoughts be with Kxx-AJx-AKxxx-Ax or Kxx-AQx-AKxxx-Ax?
I would superaccept with either IF playing 3-card superaccepts. And 2N 3D 3H 3N 4m would not exist.
#8
Posted 2007-October-06, 08:20
I don't superaccept on all 4-card supports, either. You say 'do I want to be in game opposite a hand that was going to pass the transfer' before deciding whether to do so.
That said, I play 2NT - (3D/H) - 3NT as showing 5-2 in the majors [which breaks the above rule] as I don't have a method for responder to show 3-5/5-3.
And consequently 2NT - transfer-complete-3NT - 4 new suit= a 'superaccept' with 3 trumps. The bid is a trial bid, not a cue bid (so AKx Kxx AQ10xx Ax bids 4D not 4C).
By the way, I would not have opened your sample hand 2NT, but I play a 2NT opening as 20-22 and you can't afford to upgrade many hands.
#9
Posted 2007-October-07, 14:00
The 9 card fit increases the value of the combined hands by at least an Ace.
There are few bridge "rules" that I have not occasionally broken but this one and never passing a forcing bid by partner are 2 of them.
I have learned to appreciate the value of the extra trump. It has kept me undoubled when the opps have a trump stack in an unmakable contract, and it usually gives extra options for declaring the hand.
Love those extra trumps,
Theo
#10
Posted 2007-October-07, 15:29
But generally we bid the cheapest suit with 4-card support.
I like the 3-card superaccept. For one thing responder is better able to pass 3M with a really poor hand. On the other hand it simplifies auctions like
2NT - 3H
3S - 4C
??
Here 4D and 4H are both cuebids for clubs as opener can't have a great hand for spades.
- hrothgar