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Posted 2008-February-15, 12:01

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2 - 2 - 2 - 2N - 4N - 6N

You elect to lead the 3, J, Ace, small. Pard returns the 3. Declarer cashes the top diamonds and you put off the inevitable by pitching a spade.

Declarer plays the K and the 9 to the Q and cashes the J. You need to find two discards away from your round suit holdings.

What are they?
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Posted 2008-February-15, 12:34

It seems like declarer's shape is 3-2-4-4 from the bidding and play.

If declarer holds KQ here, then I'm squeezed. Partner has only two hearts and cannot guard the suit (despite possibly holding Q). So let's assume that declarer has only one of the club honors. In this case partner can guard the clubs, and I need to guard the hearts. So I pitch two clubs away from the Jxxx.

The same analysis works if declarer has 4-2-4-3 (although I will be forced to pitch yet another club on the long spade and now require partner to hold QTxx instead of just Qxx).

The only real issue is when declarer has singleton heart. If declarer has 3-1-4-5 it seems like clubs might've been mentioned in the bidding. So it's really just 4-1-4-4 that remains a possibility, and even then a suit contract might've been looked for over 4NT, and certainly 3244/4243 is more likely shape for declarer then specifically 4144. It is also possible that I can use partner's plays to the later spade rounds to get count in that suit, eliminating the 4144 possibility.
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Posted 2008-February-15, 12:37

Pard gives you present count on the spade plays so you can be confident declarer has 3 spades.
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Posted 2008-February-15, 12:41

So it's 3-2-4-4 versus 3-1-4-5. Note that if declarer holds one of:

Qxx
xx
Jxxx
KQxx

Qxx
Q
Jxxx
Kxxxx

then I am legitimately squeezed in the round suits. So I must assume that declarer holds either:

Qxx
Qx
Jxxx
Kxxx

Qxx
x
Jxxx
KQxxx

(there are some other possibilities where declarer has no club king, but in those cases it is always right for me to pitch club, and many of those hands wouldn't have accepted the slam invite).

It's not particularly obvious how I would "know" which of these is right, but I expect:

(1) The first hand is probably more likely a priori (more balanced).

(2) The second hand might've bid 3 over 2, or over 2, or tried clubs over 4NT.

I'm pitching clubs. :)
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Posted 2008-February-15, 12:57

Well done :) declarer did indeed hold Qxx Qx Jxxx KTxx.

I got it wrong unfortunately, but I think its a great problem.
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Posted 2008-February-15, 15:19

Why are we guessing here? If partner has Qxx he should give SP for hearts on the diamonds. If he doesn't do that we just have to hope he has Hxx in clubs.
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Posted 2008-February-15, 19:22

Yes, pard needs to give suit preference or this is a guess. Pitching 2 clubs is pretty clear playing with a client for example (they bid 2N, they should be balanced). But with a good partner you should never be guessing.
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