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Posted 2008-February-11, 05:34
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Posted 2008-February-11, 05:40
Pass.
If they had opened 4♠, partner's double would have been takeout. Here, though, partner could have doubled to show a good hand, not for takeout. He didn't double, I have a 9 count, so I don't think we are being stolen from.
If they had opened 4♠, partner's double would have been takeout. Here, though, partner could have doubled to show a good hand, not for takeout. He didn't double, I have a 9 count, so I don't think we are being stolen from.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 05:59
pass. They're probably going down vs nothing 
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Posted 2008-February-11, 09:40
I really want to pass but I bid 5NT instead.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 09:59
Easiest pass ever? I mean most people wouldn't even open this hand and now you want to come in at the 6 level when partner couldn't find a bid over 5S?! You are playing right into their hands if you bid with this.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 10:07
In traditional bridge, an opening of 5♠ showed an expectation of making 11 tricks, and asked partner to raise with either the A or K of spades... I have played bridge for almost 35 years and never seen an opening 5 major call.
While this tradtional meaning is rare, I can't imagine a 1st seat 5♠ on any other hand.
QJ1098xxx AKQ10 A void would be a classic hand...ok, maybe he should hold the heart J instead of the 10
Anyway, white v white, we'd need to be able to take 10 tricks for a balance to make sense, and I don't see why we should be betting that this is more likely than not.... and the downside is huge... rho may be loaded in the minors.... imagine catching AKx xxxxx xx xxx in dummy... nice hand for 6♣
While this tradtional meaning is rare, I can't imagine a 1st seat 5♠ on any other hand.
QJ1098xxx AKQ10 A void would be a classic hand...ok, maybe he should hold the heart J instead of the 10
Anyway, white v white, we'd need to be able to take 10 tricks for a balance to make sense, and I don't see why we should be betting that this is more likely than not.... and the downside is huge... rho may be loaded in the minors.... imagine catching AKx xxxxx xx xxx in dummy... nice hand for 6♣
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Posted 2008-February-11, 10:22
we would need at least 12.5 minor suit cards to be bidding 5NT here
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 10:27
Interesting auction but this is a non-problem Gonzalo.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 11:29
mikeh, on Feb 11 2008, 04:07 PM, said:
While this tradtional meaning is rare, I can't imagine a 1st seat 5♠ on any other hand.
how about
KQJxxxxxxx
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x
xx
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Posted 2008-February-11, 12:50
TY opps for getting a level higher than you needed to!
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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jdonn, on Feb 12 2008, 07:50 AM, said:
TY opps for getting a level higher than you needed to!
Not if we bid ...
they might get two levels too high then
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True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
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Posted 2008-February-11, 14:38
whereagles, on Feb 11 2008, 12:29 PM, said:
mikeh, on Feb 11 2008, 04:07 PM, said:
While this tradtional meaning is rare, I can't imagine a 1st seat 5♠ on any other hand.
how about
KQJxxxxxxx
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x
xx
so why on earth would i open 5♠ on that hand? An overwhelming desire to get a minus score? A desire to screw partner, who is yet to have a chance to bid?
Admittedly the odds are 2-1 that any big hand is held by an opp, but surely the odds are that either no-one can bid, or, that if they do bid, it's wrong for them?
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Posted 2008-February-12, 04:32
well, if that's not too extreme for you, how about an 11th spade?
KQJxxxxxxxx
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x
x
Now, whether or not this is more likely than
QJT9xxx
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AKQJx
A
is something for statisticians to evaluate.
KQJxxxxxxxx
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x
x
Now, whether or not this is more likely than
QJT9xxx
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AKQJx
A
is something for statisticians to evaluate.
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Posted 2008-February-12, 13:51
Last hand of the tournament, I was not in the mood to make a correct pass and wanted to gamble (after a full week of scary IMPs, playing the most solid overcalls ever), so bid 5NT.
It hit gold.
Defence led ♥A, and didn't read ♥8 properly playing another round, after drawing trumps my partner (a junior japanese whose name I cannot spell), run the ♣4!, for another thing I didn't see in my life.
It hit gold.
Defence led ♥A, and didn't read ♥8 properly playing another round, after drawing trumps my partner (a junior japanese whose name I cannot spell), run the ♣4!, for another thing I didn't see in my life.
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