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pclayton, on Apr 12 2008, 08:30 PM, said:
1♥ - 1N - 2♥.
Fortunately we are in 4th chair
Fortunately we are in 4th chair
Only proves that you don't read other posts befor posting.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 14:02
Only proves that you don't read other posts befor posting.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 14:21
Now that we all, or most of us, now know the actual auction...
On some days I would make a weird decision to open this 1NT.
On better days, I would open 1♥ and then rebid 2♣, planning to raise a correction of 2♥, if it happens, to 3♥ (or bid 3♥ after an "impossible" 2♠).
On the best days, I just open 1♥ and rebid 2♥.
On some days I would make a weird decision to open this 1NT.
On better days, I would open 1♥ and then rebid 2♣, planning to raise a correction of 2♥, if it happens, to 3♥ (or bid 3♥ after an "impossible" 2♠).
On the best days, I just open 1♥ and rebid 2♥.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 14:26
kenrexford, on Apr 12 2008, 03:21 PM, said:
Now that we all, or most of us, now know the actual auction...
On some days I would make a weird decision to open this 1NT.
On better days, I would open 1♥ and then rebid 2♣, planning to raise a correction of 2♥, if it happens, to 3♥ (or bid 3♥ after an "impossible" 2♠).
On the best days, I just open 1♥ and rebid 2♥.
On some days I would make a weird decision to open this 1NT.
On better days, I would open 1♥ and then rebid 2♣, planning to raise a correction of 2♥, if it happens, to 3♥ (or bid 3♥ after an "impossible" 2♠).
On the best days, I just open 1♥ and rebid 2♥.
LOL
Justin and I were talking about this yesterday, having an argument over whether you would open 1NT or bid 1♥ 2♣. No, I'm not kidding.
I went out on a limb and said you might even rebid 2♣ if the minors were reversed. Back me up!
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Posted 2008-April-12, 14:39
skaeran, on Apr 12 2008, 12:02 PM, said:
pclayton, on Apr 12 2008, 08:30 PM, said:
1♥ - 1N - 2♥.
Fortunately we are in 4th chair
Fortunately we are in 4th chair
Only proves that you don't read other posts befor posting.
LOL I guess so. The diagram looked the same to me as Frances (and others I'd bet).
At least I have good company
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Posted 2008-April-12, 14:41
jdonn, on Apr 12 2008, 03:26 PM, said:
kenrexford, on Apr 12 2008, 03:21 PM, said:
Now that we all, or most of us, now know the actual auction...
On some days I would make a weird decision to open this 1NT.
On better days, I would open 1♥ and then rebid 2♣, planning to raise a correction of 2♥, if it happens, to 3♥ (or bid 3♥ after an "impossible" 2♠).
On the best days, I just open 1♥ and rebid 2♥.
On some days I would make a weird decision to open this 1NT.
On better days, I would open 1♥ and then rebid 2♣, planning to raise a correction of 2♥, if it happens, to 3♥ (or bid 3♥ after an "impossible" 2♠).
On the best days, I just open 1♥ and rebid 2♥.
LOL
Justin and I were talking about this yesterday, having an argument over whether you would open 1NT or bid 1♥ 2♣. No, I'm not kidding.
I went out on a limb and said you might even rebid 2♣ if the minors were reversed. Back me up!
Guilty! I have done it before, actually. LOL
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Posted 2008-April-12, 15:43
P_Marlowe, on Apr 12 2008, 10:02 AM, said:
4H.
Sould have some play.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Sould have some play.
With kind regards
Marlowe
I think if 4H has any play at all partner will be bidding it over your 3H rebid (assuming you fall in that camp)
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Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
str-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2008-April-14, 11:53
1eyedjack, on Apr 12 2008, 04:43 PM, said:
P_Marlowe, on Apr 12 2008, 10:02 AM, said:
4H.
Sould have some play.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Sould have some play.
With kind regards
Marlowe
I think if 4H has any play at all partner will be bidding it over your 3H rebid (assuming you fall in that camp)
.-), I misread the auction, I believed,
that I am in 4th chair.
I think I would go with 1H, ... and 2 or 3H,
depending on mood.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2008-April-14, 18:36
jdonn, on Apr 12 2008, 12:59 AM, said:
1♥ 2♥ and I don't think it's close.
I'm 99.9% certain I agree.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 18:51
Winstonm, on Apr 15 2008, 12:36 PM, said:
jdonn, on Apr 12 2008, 12:59 AM, said:
1♥ 2♥ and I don't think it's close.
I'm 99.9% certain I agree.
How close is that?
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Posted 2008-April-14, 19:50
655321 no, I didnt consider opening 1nts an option here. I'm no longer experimenting with 1nt openings having reverted to safe, effective, stock standard 15-17 balanced 
I was kibitzing this hand so didnt have to make the call, I hope I would find 2♥
but its very close!
I was kibitzing this hand so didnt have to make the call, I hope I would find 2♥
but its very close!
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Posted 2008-April-14, 20:01
I thought 1♥ - 1NT, 3H shows 16-18 points and 6+ hearts (the 1NT bidder will probably have 2)
3 - K9
6+2 length = 8 - AQT732
1 - J5
5 - KQ5
= 17 points. Deduct 1 from Jx and you have 16 points, and 6 hearts. The hearts are ok, not like Q97643.
Why is this not a 3H response?
Or is this not considered good enough to upgrade because of the Jx?
2H shows a 13-15 hand with 5 hearts, doesn't it?
What would have to be added to this hand to make it worth a 3H rebid?
3 - K9
6+2 length = 8 - AQT732
1 - J5
5 - KQ5
= 17 points. Deduct 1 from Jx and you have 16 points, and 6 hearts. The hearts are ok, not like Q97643.
Why is this not a 3H response?
Or is this not considered good enough to upgrade because of the Jx?
2H shows a 13-15 hand with 5 hearts, doesn't it?
What would have to be added to this hand to make it worth a 3H rebid?
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Posted 2008-April-14, 20:06
Cascade, on Apr 14 2008, 07:51 PM, said:
Winstonm, on Apr 15 2008, 12:36 PM, said:
jdonn, on Apr 12 2008, 12:59 AM, said:
1♥ 2♥ and I don't think it's close.
I'm 99.9% certain I agree.
How close is that?
very
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Posted 2008-April-14, 20:36
ArcLight, on Apr 14 2008, 07:01 PM, said:
I thought 1♥ - 1NT, 3H shows 16-18 points and 6+ hearts (the1NT bidder will probably have 2)
3 - K9
6+2 length = 8 - AQT732
1 - J5
5 - KQ5
= 17 points. Deduct 1 from Jx and you have 16 points, and 6 hearts. The hearts are ok, not like Q97643.
Why is this not a 3H response?
2H shows a 13-15 hand with 5 hearts, doesn't it?
3 - K9
6+2 length = 8 - AQT732
1 - J5
5 - KQ5
= 17 points. Deduct 1 from Jx and you have 16 points, and 6 hearts. The hearts are ok, not like Q97643.
Why is this not a 3H response?
2H shows a 13-15 hand with 5 hearts, doesn't it?
What is all this??
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Posted 2008-April-14, 21:08
jillybean2, on Apr 14 2008, 09:36 PM, said:
ArcLight, on Apr 14 2008, 07:01 PM, said:
I thought 1♥ - 1NT, 3H shows 16-18 points and 6+ hearts (the1NT bidder will probably have 2)
3 - K9
6+2 length = 8 - AQT732
1 - J5
5 - KQ5
= 17 points. Deduct 1 from Jx and you have 16 points, and 6 hearts. The hearts are ok, not like Q97643.
Why is this not a 3H response?
2H shows a 13-15 hand with 5 hearts, doesn't it?
3 - K9
6+2 length = 8 - AQT732
1 - J5
5 - KQ5
= 17 points. Deduct 1 from Jx and you have 16 points, and 6 hearts. The hearts are ok, not like Q97643.
Why is this not a 3H response?
2H shows a 13-15 hand with 5 hearts, doesn't it?
What is all this??
I like this reasoning also.
"3♥ shows 16-18 HCP's and a six-card suit. I have 14 HCP's and a six-card suit. But, I get two extra points for my six-card suit, giving me 16 and a six-card suit."
WTF?!?!?
I hope you never run for Congress.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 21:49
Ken, in addition to writing great books, you also manage to write cohesive sentences. And the WTF was a nice bonus.
Are you 16 years old yet? I can't wait to see how good a writer you will become once you reach puberty.
I am asking a simple question, who so nasty?
What is wrong with opening 1♥, then bididng 3♥ over pards 1NT response?
Why is this wrong?
Is it that the 15 HCP you have isn't so good, given the Jx?
You need better quality points?
Even with the pretty good Heart suit?
Are you 16 years old yet? I can't wait to see how good a writer you will become once you reach puberty.
I am asking a simple question, who so nasty?
What is wrong with opening 1♥, then bididng 3♥ over pards 1NT response?
Why is this wrong?
Is it that the 15 HCP you have isn't so good, given the Jx?
You need better quality points?
Even with the pretty good Heart suit?
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Posted 2008-April-14, 22:01
As has been noted by others, if I had a min 1♥-2♥ rebid after 1NT where I show 6 cards in ♥ I'd have opened a 4th seat weak 2. Thus when I rebid 2♥ here I am implying a slightly better hand than I might hold in other seats.
Since I think it would be a bit of a stretch to jump rebid 3♥ (15 HCP and a doubleton Jx with an otherwise good hand however), I definately only rebid 2♥ on this sequence.
// neilkaz //
Since I think it would be a bit of a stretch to jump rebid 3♥ (15 HCP and a doubleton Jx with an otherwise good hand however), I definately only rebid 2♥ on this sequence.
// neilkaz //
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Posted 2008-April-14, 22:10
ArcLight, on Apr 14 2008, 10:49 PM, said:
What is wrong with opening 1♥, then bididng 3♥ over pards 1NT response?
Why is this wrong?
Why is this wrong?
It's an overbid, that's all.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 22:58
ArcLight, on Apr 14 2008, 10:49 PM, said:
Ken, in addition to writing great books, you also manage to write cohesive sentences. And the WTF was a nice bonus.
Are you 16 years old yet? I can't wait to see how good a writer you will become once you reach puberty.
I am asking a simple question, who so nasty?
Are you 16 years old yet? I can't wait to see how good a writer you will become once you reach puberty.
I am asking a simple question, who so nasty?
When you have the worst possible shape for your bid, don't start adding points for distribution!
It's a very simple and very important rule.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 23:57
I can't believe I'm admitting to this, but if playing 2/1, I would probably be there with Ken and rebid 2♣ on this, planning to raise 2♥ to 3♥. This is my attempt to fudge a hand that I think is better than 2♥ direct, but not quite good enough for 3♥.
Do I get a tin hat or something when I join the Rexford bidding circle
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Do I get a tin hat or something when I join the Rexford bidding circle
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Posted 2008-April-15, 00:19
neilkaz, on Apr 14 2008, 09:01 PM, said:
As has been noted by others, if I had a min 1♥-2♥ rebid after 1NT where I show 6 cards in ♥ I'd have opened a 4th seat weak 2. Thus when I rebid 2♥ here I am implying a slightly better hand than I might hold in other seats.
Since I think it would be a bit of a stretch to jump rebid 3♥ (15 HCP and a doubleton Jx with an otherwise good hand however), I definately only rebid 2♥ on this sequence.
// neilkaz //
Since I think it would be a bit of a stretch to jump rebid 3♥ (15 HCP and a doubleton Jx with an otherwise good hand however), I definately only rebid 2♥ on this sequence.
// neilkaz //
This is NOT 4th seat.
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