[jtfanclub]

Your partner called in sick, but you decided to show up at the club anyways, which is a good thing, because somebody else didn't show up so you end up partnered with somebody you haven't played with before (but is a good card player). Standard American, Bergen raises outside of competition, Splinters, but no fit jumps or anything fancy.

So you open 1♠, next player bids 2♦, partner says 3♣, RHO says 3♦, passed around to partner, who has a couple of choices. What would these auctions end up meaning?

A.
1♠ 2♦ 3♣ 3♦
-P- -P- 3♠ -P-

B.
1♠ 2♦ 3♣ 3♦
-P- -P- -X- -P-
3♥ -P- 3♠ -P-

Assume the 3♥ call just shows a minimum with 5 spades.

Thanks in advance.

[benlessard]

A is 100% Gf no doubt about it, with a limit raise and long club you have to bid 3D instead of 3C.

B isnt forcing in MP & probably not forcing in imps. The opener denied extras by passing 3D, he denied a stopper, he wasnt able to pass 3Dx. Responder doenst have a full fit. So wanting to play 3S is a real possibility.

[Apollo81]

both are GF because 3♣ is GF

A has a higher likelihood of being real support than B, although neither is very likely to be so

[goobers]

The poll results scare me

I'm curious about the meaning of the second auction, x = penalty, 3H = i have extra shape but i didn't bid it earlier, or i'm chicken?

[Echognome]

goobers, on Apr 16 2008, 09:53 AM, said:

The poll results scare me

If we added the option:

"There is insufficient data to tell."

then we could add this as a question on the next GMAT.

Edit: See here http://www.admissionsconsultants.com/gmat/...sufficiency.asp

[rogerclee]

goobers, on Apr 16 2008, 10:53 AM, said:

The poll results scare me

Ditto.

[skjaeran]

Apollo81, on Apr 16 2008, 05:23 PM, said:

both are GF because 3♣ is GF

Agree.

[jtfanclub]

skaeran, on Apr 17 2008, 12:58 PM, said:

Apollo81, on Apr 16 2008, 05:23 PM, said:

both are GF because 3♣ is GF

Agree.

I'm not used to that bid being GF, in particular I'm used to

1♠ 2♦ 3♣ P
3♠ -P-

being not forcing. I have no idea if NF there is SAYC or not.

[pclayton]

I've played 3♣ as GF, but I didn't think it had this much support.

With a stranger, I would say A is forcing but B isn't.