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From what I can tell, she laid down her entire hand of 3 cards and said "Pulling trump" and ruffing a club. If she has more than 3 cards in her hand, it is a much dicier situation.
Play ceases as soon as a claim is made, so the order would not matter. So what she laid down should not be relevant.
If she claims she is ruffing a club, how can it be logical that she would remove the trump since theoretically, a ruff couldn't happen. However, if there were still two trump out, then I would have to rule against her since the order of the stated claim does matter.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 10:56
ASkolnick, on Jun 18 2008, 10:41 AM, said:
From what I can tell, she laid down her entire hand of 3 cards and said "Pulling trump" and ruffing a club. If she has more than 3 cards in her hand, it is a much dicier situation.
That was clarified later. She had 5 trump and 1 club, and put down 2 trump and one club, whether all at the same time or one at a time in that order I couldn't tell from the text.
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Posted 2008-June-25, 19:08
I am sure blackshoe will correct me on this, however...
If the stated line included the statement of "ruffing a club", the only possible question is whether there is one more trump out. Remember that a claim can be sloppy but not stupid. Therefore it comes down to definition; is drawing the trump sloppy? Or is it just completely contradicting the claim itself?
Sean
If the stated line included the statement of "ruffing a club", the only possible question is whether there is one more trump out. Remember that a claim can be sloppy but not stupid. Therefore it comes down to definition; is drawing the trump sloppy? Or is it just completely contradicting the claim itself?
Sean
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Posted 2008-June-25, 23:07
Heh. I suppose the TD could have asked her how many trump were still out. 
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Posted 2008-June-26, 02:02
Hi,
I must say I'm very glad I'm not playing in the club where people make such ridicilous claims as this, or in the club of those of you that think TD was right. Making such a stupid claim in my club would make sure the claimer would be laughed at (if a regular player in club), or warned against making more of such if he/she was new to the club, people who tend to use every oportunity to get higher score with such behavior are not warmly welcomed here.
Never seen any clearer mistake by TD. People who argue the oposite: Pls stay away from my club, you will not like it here.
I must say I'm very glad I'm not playing in the club where people make such ridicilous claims as this, or in the club of those of you that think TD was right. Making such a stupid claim in my club would make sure the claimer would be laughed at (if a regular player in club), or warned against making more of such if he/she was new to the club, people who tend to use every oportunity to get higher score with such behavior are not warmly welcomed here.
Never seen any clearer mistake by TD. People who argue the oposite: Pls stay away from my club, you will not like it here.
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Posted 2008-June-26, 08:31
hawk10, on Jun 26 2008, 03:02 AM, said:
this, or in the club of those of you that think TD was right. Making such a stupid claim in my club would make sure the claimer would be laughed at (if a regular player in club), or warned against making more of such if he/she was new to the club, people who tend to use every oportunity to get higher score with such behavior are not warmly welcomed here.
Guy makes an obvious and correct claim, the only question is whether what he does with his hands contradicts what he's saying, and you'd laugh at him.
Yeah, we'll be sure to stay FAR away from your club.