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1♣ 1♠
2♠ 3♥*
4♠ 5♣
5NT
* Can be help-suit game-try, if not GF
What should 5NT show, assuming decent bidding?
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5NT by limited partner
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Posted 2008-August-08, 04:07
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Posted 2008-August-08, 04:21
♠ Kxx
♥ AK10x
♦ xx
♣ QJxx
Just a hunch.
♥ AK10x
♦ xx
♣ QJxx
Just a hunch.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2008-August-08, 05:00
4♠ confirms 4-card spade support IMHO. So 5NT is not an offer to play there. Must offer some specific assets for grand slam in case responder is heading for that. No idea what asset, though.
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Posted 2008-August-08, 06:59
Choice of slam.
5C was cue, first round control, and it should be
the Ace, because clubs is openers other suit.
Opener, who had accept the game invitation was
max for his acceptance and wants to play slam,
most likely he will be at least 5-4 or 6-4.
Of course 5NT kills the chance to find 7, but ...
With kind regards
Marlowe
5C was cue, first round control, and it should be
the Ace, because clubs is openers other suit.
Opener, who had accept the game invitation was
max for his acceptance and wants to play slam,
most likely he will be at least 5-4 or 6-4.
Of course 5NT kills the chance to find 7, but ...
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2008-August-08, 07:24
I guess that there are many styles possible .
For me, 5NT would be RKC for spades. When we have set trumps and bypassed 4NT in a cuebidding sequence, I play 5NT as RKC.
I play 3♥ as guaranteeing 5 spades, as one could check back with 2NT with 4 to find out about opener's degree of support. 4♠ could therefore freely be bid on 3 cards.
A jump to 4♣ over 2♠ would be a splinter for me.
So 5♣ shouldn't be a void in clubs but a honour cuebid, ace or king. Perhaps 5422 with two small diamonds.
For 5NT, I would imagine something like QJx, xx, Ax, AQJxxx. Obviously he must have quite a hand to launch keycard here, instead of just cuebidding a red control.
.For me, 5NT would be RKC for spades. When we have set trumps and bypassed 4NT in a cuebidding sequence, I play 5NT as RKC.
I play 3♥ as guaranteeing 5 spades, as one could check back with 2NT with 4 to find out about opener's degree of support. 4♠ could therefore freely be bid on 3 cards.
A jump to 4♣ over 2♠ would be a splinter for me.
So 5♣ shouldn't be a void in clubs but a honour cuebid, ace or king. Perhaps 5422 with two small diamonds.
For 5NT, I would imagine something like QJx, xx, Ax, AQJxxx. Obviously he must have quite a hand to launch keycard here, instead of just cuebidding a red control.
Michael Askgaard
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Posted 2008-August-08, 08:06
I suppose that this is, like most other things, a matter for partnership agreement. However, I'm very surprised that no one has mentioned what I consider to be the most common and most useful treatment -- showing the guarded ♦K and a willingness to suggest 6NT as the final contract. Consider the fact that partner's hand is unlimited, so with first round diamond control you would certainly bid 5D. With no diamond control you can't afford to bypass 5S. So why not use 5NT to show the King, and play the final contract from the right side when the hands are something like Axxx Qx Kx KJxxx opposite KQxxx AKx xx AQx?
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Posted 2008-August-08, 15:30
Two options, IMO.
Option #1: Choice of Slams
Option #2: OS5NT.
Option #1: Choice of Slams
Option #2: OS5NT.
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