[H_KARLUK]

Scoring: IMP

P P P 1♣
1♥P 2♣ 3♣
4♥ 5♣ X P
?

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1♣ Minor Suit opening -- 3+ ♣;11-21HCP;12-22 total points
1♥--One level overcall;5+♥;8-11HCP;9-12 total points
2♣--3+♥;11HCP;12 total points;forcing to 2 ♥
3♣--6+♣;21-HCP;15-22 total points
4♥--5+♥;11HCP;12 total points
5♣--2+♣;11-HCP;12- total points
Double--3+♥;11HCP;12 total points

[han]

I can't anwser the question without knowing more about the system. I have never played a system where 1H shows 8-11 HCP, where 2C shows 11 HCP, where 3C shows 15-22 points and where we jump to game with this hand opposite a passed hand partner. The explanations seem absurd to me.

[H_KARLUK]

Ahh srry friend, my bad.

Sys GIB. Only South humanbeing.

http://online.bridge...ystem_notes.php

I hope helps

[han]

South shouldn't bid 4H, that is too much red with a passed hand partner when we are red with so little playing strength.

I was too quick to comment on the definitions, I forgot that we are also a passed hand so 8-11 is normal.

[Hanoi5]

I hope the robot is not expecting me to beat it on my own though.

[H_KARLUK]

http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...ername=h_karluk

[whereagles]

The question is in a pretty unreadable style, but, if read it correctly, I think I pass.

[gwnn]

so you read the auction and realised that GIB has 1471 and no defence whatsoever? we should say wow Hamdi you're great?

[jdonn]

What? The way this is written, we opened 1♣ and rebid 3♣ with this hand and are being asked what to do when our partner's 5♣ bid is doubled.

[mtvesuvius]

I pass. As unreliable and ridiculous as GIB often bids, I see no reason to pull (GIB might also raise to 6♥ ).

[H_KARLUK]

gwnn, on Dec 14 2008, 03:42 AM, said:

so you read the auction and realised that GIB has 1471 and no defence whatsoever? we should say wow Hamdi you're great?

Ok smarty,

Keep going on to focus the magician's hat. Whoops, this time no rabbit but...

Incredible, I presented the big picture impartially.

Traveler M-1223755219-13143441
http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...ername=h_karluk

“Reality is not simply there, it must be searched and won.” Paul Celan (Romanian Poet, Translator, Lecturer and Essayist. 1920-1970)

Seems you are unable to see facts. Why don't you come close to table and understand what's going on ? 16 players played same board. Mine was not either best score or best approach. I am trying to find underlying reasons. And I can never say I am the finest bridge player that ever lived.

10 players decided 4-5-6 ♥
5 players decided 3-4-5♠
1 South player started with 2♥ and EW 6♣x=

Hamdi KARLUK is never a man who likes only to hear self voice. I respect much more scientific bridge starting with at the end of the 20th century, OK? If you would criticised me that I have tried been an attempt to cover all possible contingencies, I would consider your words.

I am sorry, but you are a humanbeing like me, and a terrible thing is happening to you. So attention must be paid!

Be happy, here's one of bazillions own blunder on our daily ACBL tournament:

Traveler 986-1229202000-12430388
http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...ername=h_karluk

[H_KARLUK]

jdonn, on Dec 14 2008, 03:59 AM, said:

What? The way this is written, we opened 1♣ and rebid 3♣ with this hand and are being asked what to do when our partner's 5♣ bid is doubled.

C'mon

This post has been edited by H_KARLUK: 2008-December-14, 03:58

[jillybean]

jdonn, on Dec 13 2008, 06:59 PM, said:

What? The way this is written, we opened 1♣ and rebid 3♣ with this hand and are being asked what to do when our partner's 5♣ bid is doubled.

Duck

[gwnn]

Hamdi, apart from the name calling and the vague statement 'I am looking for underlying results' I did not understand any of your post. Could you please make it a little clearer?

I would like to know why the subtitle of this thread is 'Listening to the auction'

Looks like partner made a penalty double of 5♣ with ♥AKxx and ♦QJTxxxx. Do you agree with me that this is a very bad bid? Do you agree that, in general, it is a bad idea to assume partner has made a very bad bid? So do you agree with me that there should be no way on Earth to realise that partner has this hand?

So why do you think that by 'listening to the auction' we can come to a conclusion that partner has this hand or a similar one?

[matmat]

i don't get it. the GIBs bid this like they were on some heavy drugs, you made an irrational, irresponsible bid, got lucky and now you're trumpeting your skill and insulting other posters?
well done. you're the best bridge player ever. you should turn professional.

[jdonn]

H_KARLUK, on Dec 14 2008, 02:25 AM, said:

jdonn, on Dec 14 2008, 03:59 AM, said:

What? The way this is written, we opened 1♣ and rebid 3♣ with this hand and are being asked what to do when our partner's 5♣ bid is doubled.

C'mon

Spoiler

I might lost "Operator! Give me the number for 911! T-shirt" Perhaps it was $1 shipping on $45+! How careless I am

Ok now that you corrected it I understand. This is an easy pass. Since we bid game as a passed hand opposite a mere invitation partner knows we have extra distribution. In that context we are as balanced as we could be, so why in the world would we not trust partner?

Having now clicked on the link, obviously the bidding by all the players on the actual hand has nothing at all to do with bridge, so I guess I'm not seeing the point.

Also now that I quoted your post, I hadn't even seen the hidden comment until now. What in the world does that mean?

[H_KARLUK]

gwnn, on Dec 14 2008, 10:37 AM, said:

Hamdi, apart from the name calling and the vague statement 'I am looking for underlying results' I did not understand any of your post. Could you please make it a little clearer?

I would like to know why the subtitle of this thread is 'Listening to the auction'

Looks like partner made a penalty double of 5♣ with ♥AKxx and ♦QJTxxxx. Do you agree with me that this is a very bad bid? Do you agree that, in general, it is a bad idea to assume partner has made a very bad bid? So do you agree with me that there should be no way on Earth to realise that partner has this hand?

So why do you think that by 'listening to the auction' we can come to a conclusion that partner has this hand or a similar one?

I respect your criticism right like above. We may sometimes agree, sometimes disagree, or never agree, no big deal. You might even have more sound logical reasons. At least I know to correct an own mistake is a gain on the way to improve in future.

I listened the auction and came to a conclusion which I did not feel myself well removing penalty double. After I inspected traveler I ned th others analyses.

Believe or not I am not a bragger, sorry I cannot accept.

[H_KARLUK]

jdonn, on Dec 14 2008, 11:24 AM, said:

Also now that I quoted your post, I hadn't even seen the hidden comment until now. What in the world does that mean?

Sorry, long day. My bad. I'll remove it and post edited.