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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2009-July-12, 06:11

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edit: all white imps
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Posted 2009-July-12, 06:29

did 2H on the previous round mean something else?
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Posted 2009-July-12, 06:52

aguahombre, on Jul 12 2009, 03:29 PM, said:

did 2H on the previous round mean something else?

I think a 1H opening is blindingly obvious.

I wouldn't open this 2♥ in second seat, red versus white. 3rd seat preempts can be a bit wide ranging, but suggestions 2♥ with this is taking things WAY too far.

Passing also seems completely obvious

Partner couldn't scrape up a double our a raise, so we have not fit and there is a strong NT sitting over us.

Partner couldn't show a suit, so there is no place to run if we were to get doubled
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Posted 2009-July-12, 07:33

Agree with hrothgar. If things get hairy later on, I would never believe that this hand held so much defense if it opened 2♥.

Pass now.
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Posted 2009-July-12, 07:44

2♥
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2009-July-12, 09:52

Yeh, I guess a 3rd seat 2H would have been a bit heavy, since if I got a limit raise of a 1H call, I would accept. On this hand it looks like it could have gotten lucky, what with pard knowing how many hearts I have and what might be a good lead -- and the opps being deprived of a lot of bids. Unless they would have got a number doubling 2H.
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Posted 2009-July-12, 11:05

2♥ now is for players who like the sound of their own voice.
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Posted 2009-July-12, 12:28

Hi,

I guess I would bid 2H, but it is certainly not necessary,
and actually thinking more about it, bad, given that they
will have the majority of the deck most of the time...

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Marlowe
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Posted 2009-July-12, 15:51

What is the form of scoring/vul etc? I would often bid 2H depending on these factors
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Posted 2009-July-12, 18:33

A totally obvious 1H opening and a just as obvious pass now. Don't tell the same story twice - it gets boring.
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Posted 2009-July-12, 21:53

2♥ is too risky vul, and the times you go for a number make it too risky at imps, but I think it's likely enough to improve our score to be right not-vul at matchpoints.
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Posted 2009-July-13, 00:23

all white imps
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Posted 2009-July-13, 08:05

I would think it would be easier to take 7 tricks in NT than 8 tricks in hearts.
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Posted 2009-July-14, 10:11

I think it is reasonable to open 2♥ third seat with this hand. A "heavy" preempt can be very effective opposite a passed hand.

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