[zheddh]

Playing 2/1, you open 1m which goes pass pass Dbl.

What are the meaning of various bids by you? rdbl, 1M, 1NT, 2m, pass etc?

Thanks in advance

[ochinko]

1NT is 18-19 balanced.

2 and 3 of the same minor are just length and preemptive.

1M is a very strong hand that didn't open 2C because it was 2-suited. You prefer (or at least don't mind) a lead in the major if opps get to declare.

Don't know what redouble is. Could be SOS especially if you play short club (2+).

[gnasher]

Redouble shows a good hand and includes 18-19 balanced, as well as very strong one-suiters. 1NT is usually a bad idea, but if it exists it's natural but with good playing strength. Other bids are natural, shapely and not weak.

[lowerline]

rdbl = strong but unsuitable for 1NT
1M = natural unbalanced (implies 5crd club suit); competitive
1NT = 18-20 balanced; all suits stopped
2C = natural unbalanced (6crd suit); competitive

So 1x/2C are all natural unbalanced competitive (implying extra shape; usually having a wide range) and rdbl/1NT show power in a (semi-)balanced hand.

Steven

[pooltuna]

lowerline, on Oct 11 2009, 05:40 AM, said:

rdbl = strong but unsuitable for 1NT
1M = natural unbalanced (implies 5crd club suit); competitive
1NT = 18-20 balanced; all suits stopped
2C = natural unbalanced (6crd suit); competitive

So 1x/2C are all natural unbalanced competitive (implying extra shape; usually having a wide range) and rdbl/1NT show power in a (semi-)balanced hand.

Steven

so you pass holding?

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[gnasher]

pooltuna, on Oct 11 2009, 01:39 PM, said:

so you pass holding?

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Yes. Why would you want to bid?

[skjaeran]

Agree with passing.
Partner is supposed to move if LHO leaves it in.

[pooltuna]

gnasher, on Oct 11 2009, 08:00 AM, said:

pooltuna, on Oct 11 2009, 01:39 PM, said:

so you pass holding?

Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown

♠ AKxx ♥ AQxx ♦ xx ♣ Jxx

Yes. Why would you want to bid?

because 1♠ is more lead directing, preemptive, and in the same amount of trouble as pass?

[gnasher]

pooltuna, on Oct 11 2009, 02:11 PM, said:

because 1♠ is more lead directing, preemptive, and in the same amount of trouble as pass?

And higher than three other contracts all of which might be the right spot, supposing that we do have to play this somewhere.

I don't really understand why you think we're in trouble anyway. This double doesn't get left in that often.

[pooltuna]

gnasher, on Oct 11 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

pooltuna, on Oct 11 2009, 02:11 PM, said:

because 1♠ is more lead directing, preemptive, and in the same amount of trouble as pass?

And higher than three other contracts all of which might be the right spot, supposing that we do have to play this somewhere.

I don't really understand why you think we're in trouble anyway. This double doesn't get left in that often.

"the same amount of trouble" is NOT = "in trouble"

[peachy]

1NT = bigger than 1NT opening, 18-19 playing 15-17
Rdbl = extras but unsuited for NT
2 same minor = length
new suit = unbalanced hand, enough values or shape to be competitive opposite passed partner

Some people automatically run to another suit if they opened 1C with three clubs, but I don't like that. We should trust the responder to run in the very rare case that the 1mX is left in.

[gnasher]

pooltuna, on Oct 11 2009, 04:23 PM, said:

"the same amount of trouble" is NOT = "in trouble"

So you meant that you're not especially worried about trouble in eaither auction, and you're no more worried about being doubled in 1♠ than about being left in 1♣x? That also seems wrong.

If partner has a 4342 shape and you pass, and LHO decides to leave in the double, partner will make an SOS redouble and you'll reach 1♠.

If partner has a 2344 shape and you bid 1♠, you will probably find yourself in a revolting 2♣x. That will happen even on the hands where LHO was planning to bid something had you passed.