[Fluffy]

    - 1♦
1♥ - 3♦
3♥ - 3♠
3NT - pass

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[mike777]

For me jump rebids in a minor are very tough to handle so I give these grades with sympathy.


East 80% dislike 3s and then sitting for 3nt.
West 20%

[Jlall]

Seems fine

[nigel_k]

West 100%.

IMO East's bidding is fine and West ought to insist on hearts with that hand. There will be some hands where 3NT makes and 4♥ doesn't but I just think it's less likely.

[Apollo81]

I'd blame East. Suppose East held KQx x AKJTxxx Jx instead of his actual hand. 3NT is completely cold, 4♥ has reasonable chances to go down.

♥Ax support is nearly as good as three of them, and ♠KQ as a stopper sucks. East's bidding is certainly reasonable, but IMO, is by no means clear.

[dake50]

When does H-Ax admit this hand is not a misfit? Does 3S intend Hx support indtead of 4H?

[the hog]

dake50, on Dec 15 2009, 12:05 PM, said:

When does H-Ax admit this hand is not a misfit? Does 3S intend Hx support indtead of 4H?

Agree with this. Shouldn't E bid 4H instead of 3S?

[Vilgan]

Pretty clearly east...

Ax in support and blah stoppers in both black suits? blah. Would expect so see either less heart support or a solid diamond suit in east's hand for this bidding.

[gnasher]

I blame West (or the methods). 3♥ doesn't promise six, or even five good ones. Opener might well have three hearts for 3♦, so West could 3♥ with more or less any five-card suit - xxx K10xxx Jx A10x, for example.

After 3♥, East's 3♠ suggests doubt about the right contract. West should clearly bid 4♥ now.

Apollo81 said:

I'd blame East. Suppose East held KQx x AKJTxxx Jx instead of his actual hand. 3NT is completely cold, 4♥ has reasonable chances to go down.

With that hand, I think East should bid 3NT over 3♥. If 3NT isn't making, what game is?


This sort of sequence is made a lot easier by playing 1♦-1♥;2♠ as artificial. If you put the strong 3-6s into 2♠, 1♦-1♥;3♦ denies three hearts, and 1♦-1♥;3♦-3♥ shows a 6-card suit.

[hanp]

Tough hand, I can't bid to 4H with confidence.

[whereagles]

Ditto. No blame for me.

4♥ possible only if responder is inspired.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

The biddding was fine.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Codo]

gnasher, on Dec 15 2009, 07:23 PM, said:

I blame West (or the methods). 3♥ doesn't promise six, or even five good ones. Opener might well have three hearts for 3♦, so West could 3♥ with more or less any five-card suit - xxx K10xxx Jx A10x, for example.

After 3♥, East's 3♠ suggests doubt about the right contract. West should clearly bid 4♥ now.

Apollo81 said:

I'd blame East. Suppose East held KQx x AKJTxxx Jx instead of his actual hand. 3NT is completely cold, 4♥ has reasonable chances to go down.

With that hand, I think East should bid 3NT over 3♥. If 3NT isn't making, what game is?


This sort of sequence is made a lot easier by playing 1♦-1♥;2♠ as artificial. If you put the strong 3-6s into 2♠, 1♦-1♥;3♦ denies three hearts, and 1♦-1♥;3♦-3♥ shows a 6-card suit.

I agree that 3 Heart does not promise even 5 good hearts.

But for simple souls like me 3 NT from east did show good stoppers in the black suit and I would be really unhappy after passing this as west with lets say

xxx,KQxxxx,Kxx,x.

Of course any solution for the bridge world death hand had worked, because then 3 Heart had delivered a 6. heart.

And w/o such a tool they had to guess and guessed wrong. Bad luck.

[ArtK78]

If 3NT were the right contract, East would have bid it over 3♥. Clearly, the 3♠ bid is looking for the right contract. West should bid 4♥.

100% of the blame to West.

[Phil]

Lots of sympathy from me too. 3♥ can easily be a five card suit. Still, with those heart spots, 3N probably isn't right, so West gets the charge if anyone.

Good pair of hands for a forcing 2♦ rebid. Using that I think you'd reach 4♥.

[Old York]

I was not keen on the 3♦ rebid, either.... but hard to bid 2♦
For me, the 3♦ rebid shows a good 7+ playing tricks

I still like
1♦ - 1♥
2♦ - 3♥ (invitational with 6 hearts)

but will opener get too excited?

Tony