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All red, partner opens as dealer, you hold:
♠Txx
♥QTx
♦Qxxx
♣JT8
1♣-Pass- what do you bid?
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Posted 2009-December-22, 17:15
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2009-December-22, 17:16
probably pass
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Posted 2009-December-22, 17:16
I'd pass, game is unlikely for both sides, clubs looks like a fine spot, and a 1D bid is unlikely to do much to destruct them, and we are vulnerable so going minus a few hundred for no reason would suck.
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Posted 2009-December-22, 17:57
In a strong NT method, pass.
In a weak NT system, especially if partner will bypass a major with a balanced hand, 1♦. We could be opposite a 4=4=2=3 16 count and 1♣ will be a horrible result if we play it there. Not to mention that we'd like, on this hand, to get back to the field/par contract. If he doesn't rebid 1N, then we either have lots of hcp or we have some degree of fit....not a good hand for xyz tho...if we want to get back to 2♣. This approach sucks big time opposite some 4=4=1=4's but we can't cater to everything.
In a weak NT system, especially if partner will bypass a major with a balanced hand, 1♦. We could be opposite a 4=4=2=3 16 count and 1♣ will be a horrible result if we play it there. Not to mention that we'd like, on this hand, to get back to the field/par contract. If he doesn't rebid 1N, then we either have lots of hcp or we have some degree of fit....not a good hand for xyz tho...if we want to get back to 2♣. This approach sucks big time opposite some 4=4=1=4's but we can't cater to everything.
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Posted 2009-December-22, 18:14
Pass. Unless partner has opened a monster 21-22 point hand I doubt we are getting anywhere - and even then my hand will be a disappointment if I bid.
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Posted 2009-December-23, 01:41
yeah pass. No 4 card major and the hcp are quacks.
Wouldn't mind bidding 1♦ though.
Wouldn't mind bidding 1♦ though.
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Posted 2009-December-23, 03:30
mikeh, on Dec 23 2009, 01:57 AM, said:
In a strong NT method, pass.
In a weak NT system, especially if partner will bypass a major with a balanced hand, 1♦. We could be opposite a 4=4=2=3 16 count and 1♣ will be a horrible result if we play it there. Not to mention that we'd like, on this hand, to get back to the field/par contract. If he doesn't rebid 1N, then we either have lots of hcp or we have some degree of fit....not a good hand for xyz tho...if we want to get back to 2♣. This approach sucks big time opposite some 4=4=1=4's but we can't cater to everything.
In a weak NT system, especially if partner will bypass a major with a balanced hand, 1♦. We could be opposite a 4=4=2=3 16 count and 1♣ will be a horrible result if we play it there. Not to mention that we'd like, on this hand, to get back to the field/par contract. If he doesn't rebid 1N, then we either have lots of hcp or we have some degree of fit....not a good hand for xyz tho...if we want to get back to 2♣. This approach sucks big time opposite some 4=4=1=4's but we can't cater to everything.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2009-December-23, 04:14
I bid 1NT and was criticized for 'pokering'. I guess they're right...
♠AKx
♥K9x
♦K9
♣KQ9xx
A heart lead from Jxxx by the ♣A holder gave me 9 tricks and 11 imp's.
♠AKx
♥K9x
♦K9
♣KQ9xx
A heart lead from Jxxx by the ♣A holder gave me 9 tricks and 11 imp's.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win
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Posted 2009-December-23, 04:25
"One swallow doesn't make a summer", as the interviewer said, rejecting Monica Lewinsky's application for a job as an accounts clerk.
I certainly would not be happy to hear 3NT from partner and would view the appearance of dummy with some trepidation, so I would have passed.
On another note, if it had gone 1C - (Dble) - ?, I might try redouble, hoping to be able to pass out partner's forcing pass.
I certainly would not be happy to hear 3NT from partner and would view the appearance of dummy with some trepidation, so I would have passed.
On another note, if it had gone 1C - (Dble) - ?, I might try redouble, hoping to be able to pass out partner's forcing pass.
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Posted 2009-December-23, 08:20
I would bid 1♦ routinely and we'd play 1N as our rebid is 15-bad 19.
The intermediates make this a 6 count so I'm happy to bid it as such in standard methods, we tend to respond slightly light anyway.
The intermediates make this a 6 count so I'm happy to bid it as such in standard methods, we tend to respond slightly light anyway.
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Posted 2009-December-23, 08:29
Kind of funny, but I used to play with a guy where 1NT in response specifically to a 1♣ opening showed 2-5 HCP. The more vulnerable, the more minor cards expected. I would have bid 1NT with this hand, barely, with a 2-5 range.
That "convention" was mostly for humor value, but it did create one of my favorite auctions ever. Red on white (hence, lots of minor stuff promised), I responded 1NT to a 1♣ opening, alerted as 2-5 HCP. Partner rebid 6♣ (after a double), which was right. We went down one when the spade King was in the wrong spot, but that meant that 5♥ or 5♠ made for the opponents. 6♣X-1 was a top.
That "convention" was mostly for humor value, but it did create one of my favorite auctions ever. Red on white (hence, lots of minor stuff promised), I responded 1NT to a 1♣ opening, alerted as 2-5 HCP. Partner rebid 6♣ (after a double), which was right. We went down one when the spade King was in the wrong spot, but that meant that 5♥ or 5♠ made for the opponents. 6♣X-1 was a top.
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Posted 2009-December-24, 02:29
Pass.
No need to bid.
Playing with my regular p, I may bid 1D, but than we play a weak NT and
a wide ranging 1NT rebid, i.e. the worst that can happen is 1NT (or 2NT
if he has 19-20), so we will still be ok.
Playing Standard American, why do you want to play 1NT?
With kind regards
Marlowe
No need to bid.
Playing with my regular p, I may bid 1D, but than we play a weak NT and
a wide ranging 1NT rebid, i.e. the worst that can happen is 1NT (or 2NT
if he has 19-20), so we will still be ok.
Playing Standard American, why do you want to play 1NT?
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2009-December-24, 12:13
If I could guess which 3cM for my psych. . ?
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