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#1 User is offline   Cascade 

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Posted 2009-December-27, 19:22

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1♦ (2♠) Dbl (PASS)
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Assume no good bad 2NT or the like.

3NT or 4♣ or something else?
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Posted 2009-December-27, 20:43

At first I liked 4C, then I stopped to think...dangerous for me.

RHO's non raise suggests partner has 3+spades, thus 7 or 8+ major suit cards, and so I just bid 3NT.
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Posted 2009-December-27, 21:08

4♣ because I have clubs. RHO's silence doesn't mean anything to me.
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Posted 2009-December-27, 21:24

4♣.

I think it's quite close as far as picking the best game, but 4♣ is better on the slam hands.
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Posted 2009-December-27, 21:37

4C
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Posted 2009-December-27, 22:08

I like 3N.

It seems we need a magical diamond holding for 6m. A lot of our hand is in a doubleton, and even our stiff is across from some strength.
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Posted 2009-December-28, 01:38

4♣ bwdik
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Posted 2009-December-28, 02:15

I think 3NT is much better than anything else.
Partner may still have 5(6?) hearts for his negative double. They didn't raise spades so he has 2-3-4 spades with 3 being the most common holding.
I think I slam will not be in sight often enough and we may end up in something silly if he has :

J7xx AQTx J9x xx
QTx KQTxx 9x Qxx

or even something stronger like :
xx AQ8xx A9x xxx

That being said I accept that sometimes slam is a laydown and often 5 in a minor is making along with 3nt...
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Posted 2009-December-28, 07:23

count me in with the 4♣ bidders
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Posted 2009-December-28, 10:08

4♣ for me as well.
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Posted 2009-December-28, 14:56

Hi,

I would go with 3C, which is certainly a bid with brakes on, but partner
knowes, that I am in a tough spot.

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Posted 2009-December-28, 15:02

Tough between 3NT and 4♣, I like 4♣ with the higher upside.
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Posted 2009-December-28, 15:06

Cascade, on Dec 27 2009, 08:22 PM, said:

[ONEHAND=South,None,IMP,AK,J,QT762,AKJ93]1♦ (2♠) Dbl (PASS)
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Assume no good bad 2NT or the like. 3NT or 4♣ or something else?[/ONEHAND
IMO 3N = 10, 4♣ = 8, 3♣ = 6, _P = 4, 3♠ = 3.
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Posted 2009-December-28, 16:24

Which to do first? Show 2xS-stops ->3NT or Bid out this interesting shape? I like 4C if I can 4NT showing S-stops. If 4NT is artificial, 3NT now. It is a jump. Maybe partner sees D-AK golden for slam try.
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Posted 2009-December-28, 22:41

dake50, on Dec 28 2009, 03:24 PM, said:

3NT now. It is a jump. Maybe partner sees D-AK golden for slam try.

Yep, with a chunky diamond fit and original game values, partner will be pulling 3NT for slam. There are club slams that might be missed, but I am sticking with the jump to 3NT. Partner is not barred.
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