The Misadventures of Rex and Jay #5657 Continuations after an overcall
#1
Posted 2010-June-24, 18:04
Playing teams with no one red, RHO opens 1♥, you overcall 1♠. I will give you the hand later. LHO passes, now partner bids 2♦, non forcing but he is unpassed.
What is the WEAKEST hand you could have to raise to 3♦? If possible, give some examples....
thanks !!!
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#2
Posted 2010-June-24, 18:11
#3
Posted 2010-June-24, 18:26
#4
Posted 2010-June-24, 18:32
microcap, on Jun 24 2010, 07:04 PM, said:
♠ QTxxx ♥ xx ♦ xxxx ♣ xx
♠ QTxxx ♥ xx ♦ Kxx ♣ xxx
#5
Posted 2010-June-24, 18:48
peachy, on Jun 24 2010, 07:26 PM, said:
LOL
#6
Posted 2010-June-24, 18:56
#7
Posted 2010-June-24, 20:33
jdonn, on Jun 24 2010, 07:56 PM, said:
Once again when I think I have lost my head as I read posts, Josh's opinion is like a light breaking through dark clouds.
This isn't a 'total-tricks' bid. 2♦ is NF. Therefore a raise shows extras. If RHO had bid, this is a different story.
OK, I'll go out on a limb and say I'll raise on 4 with about a 10 count.
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
#8
Posted 2010-June-24, 22:10
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I will be more helpful than loling.
There are two reasons to "remove" major to a minor here:
a)we have good suit of our own and want to bring it into the auction
b)we have some points and as partne may well have 16-17count for his overcall we don't want to miss a game.
Standard agreement is that those bids are NF but somewhat constructive and partner is welcome to pass if his overcall is below opening bid strength (so partner may pass with 10 and we may have 14-15 maximum).
For example:
xx x KJTxxx Axxx
1♣ - 1♥ pass - ????
What do you want to bid here if you don't have non-forcing 2♦ available ?
Why do you want partner to bid anything over this 2♦ with say: Qxx AKTxx xx Jxx ?
#9
Posted 2010-June-25, 01:46
This would be an automatic raise for me.
#10
Posted 2010-June-25, 02:11
A raise is certainly constructive, it is not a preempting bid,
so give me a reasonable overcall, say an Ace / King more
than min, this would basically transalate to 10/11.
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#11
Posted 2010-June-25, 03:35
nige1, on Jun 24 2010, 06:32 PM, said:
microcap, on Jun 24 2010, 07:04 PM, said:
♠ QTxxx ♥ xx ♦ xxxx ♣ xx
♠ QTxxx ♥ xx ♦ Kxx ♣ xxx
Yep, the OP did say "Run with it".
#12
Posted 2010-June-25, 04:50
AQxxx xxx Qxx xx I would pass.
Don't know where exactly the breaking point would be for me.
#13
Posted 2010-June-25, 06:50
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
#14
Posted 2010-June-25, 07:08
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AQxxx xxx Qxx xx I would pass.
I like it.
#15
Posted 2010-June-25, 07:20
I held:
My thought was that with west passing, We have a very good fit. I know I have a lousy 8 count but it upgrades a bit with the bidding so far. So I bid 3♦--- hence the original question of how weak you can be to raise here.
But now, Rex went ape--- 4NT! I bid 5♦, which fortunately he passed. Even more fortunate, it made on a defensive error [or two ].
I accused Rex of being drunk with the 4NT, especially as his ♥ are mostly waste on the auction. He accused me of being a lunatic for raising a non-forcing bid [and we do play it as n/f] on my sketchy hand and thought I promised extras.
I told him just to bid 4♦ or 5♦, that way he could blame me if it went terribly wrong.
From the tenor of the responses so far, it appears most are sympathetic to me though granted I do have a terrible hand.
Followups?
#16
Posted 2010-June-25, 07:51
#17
Posted 2010-June-25, 08:04
hanp, on Jun 25 2010, 08:51 AM, said:
yes but we should ask if they are both out of the hospital now (bullet wounds to the feet are somewhat uncomfortable) plus ask Jay if he has reported his broken "pass" button to BBO yet...oh wait he wasn't online
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
#19
Posted 2010-June-25, 08:21
Interesting question is how should N plan his bidding. I would probably start with 2♥ but maybe 2♦ planning 3♥ next is reasonable ?
#20
Posted 2010-June-25, 08:24
bluecalm, on Jun 25 2010, 08:21 AM, said:
Interesting question is how should N plan his bidding. I would probably start with 2♥ but maybe 2♦ planning 3♥ next is reasonable ?
3♥ asking for a ♥ stopper?
I think it's clear to start 2♦ and pass if partner doesn't do something encouraging.
bed
Rex is North, Jay is South