[inquiry]

Scoring: MP

Board 14. If east passes, south will open 1♣. If west then passes, north bids 1♠. If west overcalls 1♥, north will make a negative double. Either way, NS will compete to 2♠ or bid to 2♠ on their own. However, If East opens 1♦, south will overcall 1♠ and north will compete to 2♠.

Scores: 2He.w=10, 3Hew=8, 1Ne=7, 2Ne=5, 2Sx=4, 4Hew=1, 2Sn=0

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3H W 21
4H E 1
2H E 1
2H W 1
4H W 1
2S N 1
3H E 1


The two pairs playing weak 1NT got to play in the top spot of 2♥ after opening EAST 1NT.


4H W ant590 - crayzeejim
4H E jdonn/gib
3H W Flycycle/Wackojack
3H W Codo-Fluffy
3H W tylere / bid_em_up
3H W Siegmund/MSchmahl
3H W jlall/hanp
3H W CanadaGrl/Gerardo
3H W zasanya/ravia6
3H W rogerClee/cherdano
3H W mohitz/akjq
3H W karlson/threenobob
3H W peachy/lg62
3H W elianna/awm
3H W mbodell - javabean
3H W gnasher/catch22
3H W East4Evil/sohcahtoa
3H W bluecalm/redds
3H W helene_t-agusaris
3H W kfay/jchiu
3H W tlgoodwin/timg
3H W sallyally/joylson
3H W olegru - driver733
3H E cascade kermit
2S N kristen33/jillybean
2H W lobowolf/bkjswan
2H E Hrothgar/Free
NA 0 j0i/gwnn
NA 0 Tomi2-JHDW
NA 0 Vampyr/Lamford

[gnasher]

inquiry, on Jul 27 2010, 06:04 PM, said:

If east passes, south will open 1♣. If west then passes, north bids 1♠. If west overcalls 1♥, north will make a negative double. Either way, NS will compete to 2♠ or bid to 2♠ on their own. However, If East opens 1♦, south will overcall 1♠ and north will compete to 2♠.

I don't understand how you're supposed to play in 2♥. In every auction NS will compete to 2♠.

[awm]

The trick is that N/S do not have a good defense to weak notrump, and just pass the whole time while their opponents play in a nine-card heart fit. So you have to open the convention that N/S do not know how to defend.

[kayin801]

awm, on Jul 27 2010, 10:17 AM, said:

The trick is that N/S do not have a good defense to weak notrump, and just pass the whole time while their opponents play in a nine-card heart fit. So you have to open the convention that N/S do not know how to defend.

Not true. I opened a 10-12 NT in first seat, my partner tried to sign off in 2♥, and south still balanced with 2♠.

Unless that was an operator error? No blame obviously cause it's still a reasonable action, but you can't assign 2♥ a score then ;P

EDIT: maybe a 1♣ opening would keep them out though.

[TylerE]

Yea, agreed with the others. If you say a 10 should be attainable on every board, them imo 3♥ must be scored as 10 since 2♥ is unplayable. As for the painrs in 2♥, surely that must be operator error?

[Hanoi5]

There might have been operator's errors in this one, but they can be checked. So if you opened 1NT make sure you complainand your auction should be checked.

[peachy]

How is it possible (without operator error of forgetting to bid 2S) to stop at 2H?

[TimG]

peachy, on Jul 27 2010, 01:26 PM, said:

How is it possible (without operator error of forgetting to bid 2S) to stop at 2H?

A 1NT opening by east will not be overcalled.

[kayin801]

Hanoi5, on Jul 27 2010, 10:55 AM, said:

There might have been operator's errors in this one, but they can be checked. So if you opened 1NT make sure you complainand your auction should be checked.

Ya okay, the auction at our table went:

1NT-P-2H-P
P-2S-X-P
3H-AP

but it should have instead gone 1NT-P-2H-AP if they never bid after a NT opening.

[bluecalm]

Our auction:

1♦* - 1♠ - dbl** - 2♠
3♥ - pass - pass !?

1♦ = prec
dbl = 4hearts or exactly 5 hearts but then 7-10 (with 11+ or 6hearts we bid 2♦ which is transfer to hearts)

3♥ = to simplify the system we don't play any kind of good/bad 2NT here (and even if we were I think it should just show both minors).

I think my partner made quite a hero pass here...

[Codo]

So to reach the perfect score we need to know that they are not able to compete/balance over 1 NT but they are able to do so over any other opening bid?

Come on....

[Cascade]

Hanoi5, on Jul 28 2010, 05:55 AM, said:

There might have been operator's errors in this one, but they can be checked. So if you opened 1NT make sure you complainand your auction should be checked.

We opened 1NT and would have rested in 2♥ but were pushed to the three-level.

[Hanoi5]

If opening 1NT meant no competition from N/S after 2♥, then Cascade/kermit and East4Evil/sohcahtoa deserve a 2♥ note, as I bid 2♠ over their sign-off.

[Cyberyeti]

Codo, on Jul 28 2010, 03:05 AM, said:

So to reach the perfect score we need to know that they are not able to compete/balance over 1 NT but they are able to do so over any other opening bid?

Come on....

And that is exactly why a goodly bit of the world outside the US plays a weak no trump. Lowest preempt in the book. It can dial a 4 figure number where a 1m opener doesn't get punished, but it steals back on these deals.

[gnasher]

What sort of hand would
- open 1♣ in second
- overcall 1♠ over 1♣ or 1♦
- not bid after
  (1NT) pass (2♦) pass (2♥)
or
  (1NT) pass (2♥) pass (pass)
at matchpoints with nobody vulnerable?