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(1x) 1N (2♣) ?
If you usualy play systems on after 1N (2♣), do you play systems on here?
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Posted 2010-September-04, 08:48
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Posted 2010-September-04, 09:15
Yes. Pretend like the opening bid didn't take place and play what you normally would over 2♣.
I hope it is "system on over a x, 2♣, and 3♣".
I hope it is "system on over a x, 2♣, and 3♣".
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Posted 2010-September-04, 09:23
Thanks Phil, we play systems on over X and 2♣ I need to talk about 3♣
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
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Posted 2010-September-04, 12:28
I play Systems On, including Lebensohl.
Dbl of 2C is Stayman. Dbl of RHO's other 2-level bis is whatever you have agreed Dbl to mean in your methods (penalty for many). For Lebensohl, any stopper promise/deny applies only to RHO's suit since 1NT overcall already promised the stopper in their opening suit (LHO's suit).
Dbl of 2C is Stayman. Dbl of RHO's other 2-level bis is whatever you have agreed Dbl to mean in your methods (penalty for many). For Lebensohl, any stopper promise/deny applies only to RHO's suit since 1NT overcall already promised the stopper in their opening suit (LHO's suit).
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Posted 2010-September-04, 13:26
Yes, unless 2♣ is Lair. Then, systems on as if RHO bid Landy.
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Posted 2010-September-10, 12:49
Phil, on Sep 4 2010, 08:15 AM, said:
Yes. Pretend like the opening bid didn't take place and play what you normally would over 2♣.
I hope it is "system on over a x, 2♣, and 3♣".
I hope it is "system on over a x, 2♣, and 3♣".
Phil, what is the advantage of playing systems on over 3♣ ?
I see you can have the 1nt bidder playing the hands and could show slam interest
after 1N (3C) 3H (P) 3S etc but you can't ever play in 3♦. Is this not important?
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
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Posted 2010-September-10, 13:15
People still play 2C as natural here ?
Anyway to simplify things I think it's good to play system on.
Anyway to simplify things I think it's good to play system on.
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Posted 2010-September-10, 14:35
jillybean, on Sep 10 2010, 01:49 PM, said:
Phil, on Sep 4 2010, 08:15 AM, said:
Yes. Pretend like the opening bid didn't take place and play what you normally would over 2♣.
I hope it is "system on over a x, 2♣, and 3♣".
I hope it is "system on over a x, 2♣, and 3♣".
Phil, what is the advantage of playing systems on over 3♣ ?
I see you can have the 1nt bidder playing the hands and could show slam interest
after 1N (3C) 3H (P) 3S etc but you can't ever play in 3♦. Is this not important?
There's an old post from Fred (really old!) that discusses this.
Suffice it to say, playing 3♦ and 3♥ as transfers showing at least an invite works really well. As does a double which is essentially takeout, but functions as Stayman.
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Posted 2010-September-10, 16:23
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Suffice it to say, playing 3♦ and 3♥ as transfers showing at least an invite works really well. As does a double which is essentially takeout, but functions as Stayman.
+1 for that.
Martens even reccomends using transfers after 3♣ opening !
He also reccomends using transfers after 3H openings/overcall after 1NT (then dbl is transfer to spades and 3S is transfer to 3NT/stopper ask.
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