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what do you bid?

Poll: what do you bid? (29 member(s) have cast votes)

what do you bid?

  1. double, intending to rebid 3N over the expected 3S (13 votes [44.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.83%

  2. double, intending to rebid 4N (quant) over the expected 3S (1 votes [3.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.45%

  3. double, intending to rebid clubs (4 votes [13.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.79%

  4. 4C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. double, intending to cuebid diamonds (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. some other (11 votes [37.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.93%

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#1 User is offline   raist 

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Posted 2010-September-12, 07:59

you are red vs white in 4th seat. before you finish counting your points, LHO opens 3D and it gets passed over to you...
what is your plan?

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Posted 2010-September-12, 13:27

What is 4NT in this seat?
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Posted 2010-September-12, 14:43

Sick hand, guess I would just bid 3N.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 14:57

Note to self: Don't double Roger.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 15:01

aguahombre, on Sep 12 2010, 01:57 PM, said:

Note to self: Don't double Roger.

The problem is an issue of methods. It would be great on this hand to double and if partner bids 3S, to play that 3N is absolutely to play. That is unfortunately not the case, since partner will pull 3N to 4S basically anytime he has 5 spades (we showed a flexible hand and he must have nothing in diamonds). This would be bad for us, since 5C is in much more danger of going down than 3N.

Double gains when partner doesn't bid 3S (either 4S showing some signs of life, even though this may be a tricky auction, or 3H/4H which would be amazing since we can bid keycard). I don't think it's worth the risk though, but I could be wrong. It's not like anyone has a lot of experience with this kind of hand.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 02:31

4♣ Gerber, followed by specific King ask. Anyone? No? Ok, then just start with Dbl :P
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Posted 2010-September-13, 04:13

:P 6♣ I suppose since I can pull trumps and the ♥ king is a strong favorite not to be on my left. Otherwise 3NT. I am NOT going to double with a stiff spade. Having two opponents at the table is tuff enough for me.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 04:33

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Posted 2010-September-13, 04:38

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Damn, my pattern recognition doesn't work well enough. This time I haven't even thought about it :(
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Posted 2010-September-13, 04:48

bluecalm, on Sep 13 2010, 05:38 AM, said:

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Damn, my pattern recognition doesn't work well enough. This time I haven't even thought about it :(

hah it doesnt make sense on this hand since your side 3 card suit is solid meaning you won't need the discards so you're fine :(
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Posted 2010-September-13, 08:17

3NT for me, 3♥ also a good option, then you can ask for keycards if partner raises.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 09:46

I think 3H is suicide, what can partner have to raise you?
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Posted 2010-September-13, 10:10

Science has its risks, they though Einstein was crazy too!

on the other hand

why did you say you like 3♥?
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Posted 2010-September-13, 10:30

Looking at the expected values in partner's hand, I would reckon him to have KJ in spades and nothing else. No entries to take the heart finesse, so 6C looks like 2 or 3 off. 3♥ will play there, as even if partner has K♥ in addition, he will pass because I may be much weaker.

It has to be X. Ace ask if he bids hearts, 3NT if he bids spades.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 14:14

Fluffy, on Sep 13 2010, 12:10 PM, said:

Science has its risks, they though Einstein was crazy too!

Einstein didn't know to come in from the rain, so there are always trade-offs...
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Posted 2010-September-13, 14:33

JLOGIC, on Sep 13 2010, 05:48 AM, said:

bluecalm, on Sep 13 2010, 05:38 AM, said:

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Damn, my pattern recognition doesn't work well enough. This time I haven't even thought about it :(

hah it doesnt make sense on this hand since your side 3 card suit is solid meaning you won't need the discards so you're fine :P

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Posted 2010-September-13, 16:11

'Other' was 6C for me - obvious reasons, right or wrong.
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Posted 2010-September-14, 01:56

I think 6♥ is suicide, because you only have 5 ♣s. You need 6 ♣s to bid slam in your 4 card suit.
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Posted 2010-September-15, 11:45

JLOGIC, on Sep 13 2010, 05:33 AM, said:

6H

Don't you need a 6th club to make this bid?
 
 
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