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Posted 2010-September-26, 10:48
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-September-26, 11:18
hanp, on Sep 26 2010, 11:48 AM, said:
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AK
AJ105
1C - p - 1H - Dbl
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AJ105
1C - p - 1H - Dbl
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well 6♣ should be playable as your pard bid the suit where you have a worthless doubleton and an 8 card suit is nothing to sneeze at.
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Posted 2010-September-26, 11:26
I wouldn't open this hand, with only 8 cards I probably won't be getting a lot of tricks!
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Posted 2010-September-26, 12:26
Pass (showing doubleton ♥)
I'll explain to partner later that passing and then bidding 5♣ shows more than bidding 5♣ directly. Of course this also gives partner the best chance to describe his hand (it's important that at least one of us do that) and maybe I'll have a better picture of whether or not we have slam on the next round.
I'll explain to partner later that passing and then bidding 5♣ shows more than bidding 5♣ directly. Of course this also gives partner the best chance to describe his hand (it's important that at least one of us do that) and maybe I'll have a better picture of whether or not we have slam on the next round.
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Posted 2010-September-26, 12:27
Little Kid, on Sep 26 2010, 12:26 PM, said:
I wouldn't open this hand, with only 8 cards I probably won't be getting a lot of tricks!
you haven't kept up with hanp!!! 2=xx and 5=xxxxx
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Posted 2010-September-26, 15:29
I'll also go with Pass if Redouble is support. I could redouble (if it ain't support) or reverse into 2♦.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2010-September-26, 17:19
Using gnasher's "toy" again ( 2S! GF, artificial ) for a 1H response :
A
x x
A K
A J T x x x x x
1C - ( p ) - 1H - ( X )
2S! - ( p ) - 2NT! ( asks for clarification )
??
... 3C! = long Cl, no 3h, no 4s
... 3D! = 4s, no 3h, 5+c
... 3H! = 3h, no 4s, 5+c
... 3S! = 4s and 3h
Now if I only knew Responder's hand, I could continue after 3C!
A
x x
A K
A J T x x x x x
1C - ( p ) - 1H - ( X )
2S! - ( p ) - 2NT! ( asks for clarification )
??
... 3C! = long Cl, no 3h, no 4s
... 3D! = 4s, no 3h, 5+c
... 3H! = 3h, no 4s, 5+c
... 3S! = 4s and 3h
Now if I only knew Responder's hand, I could continue after 3C!
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Posted 2010-September-26, 17:37
2♦ obv
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Posted 2010-September-26, 19:03
Gawd, I hate using "2" to show xx 
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Posted 2010-September-26, 20:59
Fluffy, on Sep 26 2010, 04:37 PM, said:
2♦ obv
Hopefully this followed by 4♣ after whatever partner does shows something this good since we didn't bid 4♣ directly.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2010-September-26, 21:04
Always choose the lesser of two weevils.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-September-27, 03:41
aguahombre, on Sep 26 2010, 08:03 PM, said:
Gawd, I hate using "2" to show xx
I hope hanp promises never to do that again.
Anyway, I'm ready to see Responder's hand.
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Posted 2010-September-27, 04:07
Partner had xx AK10xx QJxx Qx. We sort of stumbled into 6C, with opponents bidding 4S on the way.
I asked a very fine bridge player and her partner what they would do. Independently they answered "this is why we don't play support redoubles!". Her partner mentioned that they play 2S artificial (somewhat similar to gnasher) without the double, but after the double they prefer to play it naturally.
They also thought they might open 2C if they had no way to show a strong 1-suiter after opening 1C. Thoughts?
About the notation, I agree that 2 instead of xx is a little off, but AJ105 works nicely as you don't have to count all the x's (of course, you could also count the cards in the other suits in the hope that I am giving a 13-card hand).
I asked a very fine bridge player and her partner what they would do. Independently they answered "this is why we don't play support redoubles!". Her partner mentioned that they play 2S artificial (somewhat similar to gnasher) without the double, but after the double they prefer to play it naturally.
They also thought they might open 2C if they had no way to show a strong 1-suiter after opening 1C. Thoughts?
About the notation, I agree that 2 instead of xx is a little off, but AJ105 works nicely as you don't have to count all the x's (of course, you could also count the cards in the other suits in the hope that I am giving a 13-card hand).
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Posted 2010-September-27, 04:43
I was thinking of opening 2♣ but the hand is a little too weak for that I would say. Maybe with spades it would make more sense. Perhaps you can pass first round and cue next round?
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-September-27, 10:40
hanp, on Sep 27 2010, 04:07 AM, said:
About the notation, I agree that 2 instead of xx is a little off, but AJ105 works nicely as you don't have to count all the x's (of course, you could also count the cards in the other suits in the hope that I am giving a 13-card hand).
Yeh, AJT5 works well, especially if there is an x or two somewhere else to make the "5" jump up and bite me.
It is not unheard of for someone to post more or less than 13 cards. My first read was maybe AJT5 should have been AJT6. Then another poster fixed the heart suit for me.
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Posted 2010-September-27, 10:46
I never entered into the original discussion of this shorthand notation, but I hate it.
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Posted 2010-September-27, 10:54
gwnn, on Sep 27 2010, 04:43 AM, said:
I was thinking of opening 2♣ but the hand is a little too weak for that I would say. Maybe with spades it would make more sense.
Indeed. Would rather have ten real with a minor, but 9 is fine for a major. This one is very close.
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