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Passing with 13HCP

#1 User is offline   G-Bear 

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Posted 2010-November-09, 12:17



This was played in an ACBL MP Robot tournament.

How can GIB pass my 2 bid with 13 HCP? I'm in 2+1 while 3NT+1 is cold as the cards lie. The redouble should promise at least one more bid by North.
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Posted 2010-November-09, 12:59

View PostG-Bear, on 2010-November-09, 12:17, said:

3NT+1 is cold as the cards lie.
only if bid by you :)
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Posted 2010-November-09, 14:10

This was an interesting one.

The robot knows that 3N is the official bid, albeit less desirable because of the lack of a heart stopper. It looked ahead to see what would happen if it bid 3N, or 2S, or 3D. It saw, that in the samples it generated, 3N was less effective a bid at MP than Pass, so it overrode the 3N call and passed.

I'm mildly surprised at the outcome. But the hands it generated are consistent with the decision. I'm going to take another look in a while. Perhaps it shouldn't be allowed to override that 3N, or perhaps 2D should be forcing.
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Posted 2010-November-09, 15:33

View PostBbradley62, on 2010-November-09, 12:59, said:

only if bid by you :)

Even played by North its cold, played by South its +1.
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Posted 2010-November-09, 15:35

View Postuday, on 2010-November-09, 14:10, said:

This was an interesting one.

The robot knows that 3N is the official bid, albeit less desirable because of the lack of a heart stopper. It looked ahead to see what would happen if it bid 3N, or 2S, or 3D. It saw, that in the samples it generated, 3N was less effective a bid at MP than Pass, so it overrode the 3N call and passed.

I'm mildly surprised at the outcome. But the hands it generated are consistent with the decision. I'm going to take another look in a while. Perhaps it shouldn't be allowed to override that 3N, or perhaps 2D should be forcing.

It could have rebid 2S then South picks 3NT.
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Posted 2010-November-09, 15:38

View PostG-Bear, on 2010-November-09, 12:17, said:



This was played in an ACBL MP Robot tournament.

How can GIB pass my 2 bid with 13 HCP? I'm in 2+1 while 3NT+1 is cold as the cards lie. The redouble should promise at least one more bid by North.

Though why didn't you just pass 1DXX- West was a GIB right -it might have left you to make a big plus score
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Posted 2010-November-12, 15:30

View Postcloa513, on 2010-November-09, 15:38, said:

Though why didn't you just pass 1DXX- West was a GIB right -it might have left you to make a big plus score



Good point. I wonder what the opposing GIBs would have done?
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