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#1 User is offline   mr1303 

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Posted 2011-January-31, 15:39



2S is a weak jump overcall, and you're under pressure. How best to proceed?
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Posted 2011-January-31, 16:11

2N. I thought this was a good problem.

3 is GF for me so thats out.

If I played Lebensohl after partner's reopening double, then pass would be my choice since I could show some strength with 3, but otherwise its difficult to catch up with a pass. I assume this is not an option.

2N isn't right on shape, but its a reasonable value bid. Even if partner only has club tolerance, I have a good shot of shutting out RHO and setting up clubs.
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Posted 2011-January-31, 16:39

I chose 3, this is a nice problem though. I generally prefer to err on the aggressive side with hands like this, it's worked pretty well for me so far.
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Posted 2011-January-31, 17:22

2nt

an overbid for me, pard will expect more here from me.

pass close second choice....but that may create even more problems down the road. I note lho has passed and rho bid 2s nv.
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Posted 2011-January-31, 17:49

Pass. A WJO opposite a passed partner can be all sorts of things and need not be a pure AQJxxx and nothing outside. My hand is pretty soft and we're a long way from running my club suit so I won't feel too bad if this is passed out.
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Posted 2011-January-31, 18:08

Agree with Phil, good problem and I voted for 2NT.
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Posted 2011-January-31, 18:21

I'm also an unhappy 2N bidder. If it makes, it's a good score for us, if it goes down, maybe they make 2. Does it happen enough to warrant bidding, I don't know....
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Posted 2011-January-31, 18:21

I would bid 3. If the clubs come in playing 2n, that might well be 9 tricks. But mostly I like the possibility that partner bids 3n to rightside.
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Posted 2011-January-31, 20:59

I thought this was a completely obvious 2N and did not find it to be a good problem. Pass is too little. 3C is too much. We have a balanced invitational hand with a stopper and not 4 of the other major.
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Posted 2011-January-31, 22:04

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-January-31, 20:59, said:

I thought this was a completely obvious 2N and did not find it to be a good problem. Pass is too little. 3C is too much. We have a balanced invitational hand with a stopper and not 4 of the other major.


Well, you and Phil and Han all agree on 2NT. But you are the only one comfortable with the situation. Thus it is a good problem, as the other two said.
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Posted 2011-February-01, 01:42

I am not familiar with a style where 2NT is natural, but if it was I decided that this hand must qualify
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Posted 2011-February-01, 02:42

Seemed a pretty clear 2NT to me.
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Posted 2011-February-02, 07:32

2NT. Nothing to like or dislike my hand. I have an invitational hand with a stopper, no negative double and no fit. What else is left?
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Posted 2011-February-02, 08:34

View Postmr1303, on 2011-January-31, 15:39, said:

2S is a weak jump overcall, and you're under pressure. How best to proceed?
IMO _P = 10, 3 = 7, 2N (natural?!) = 5. Perhaps you should pass, hoping that partner can reopen, Then you can "hang" partner with a 3 bid, in the hope of right-siding notrump if he has quack-rag in spades.
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Posted 2011-February-08, 18:04

Here's what happened



Pard opened light, but this would probably be even more of a problem if he had opened 1, which would make 2NT now artificial.

As it is, you have a choice between two overbids (2NT, 3), a muddy dbl, and a slight underbid (pass). The snag with the overbids is they require at least a good min across to work well. Pass should be ok if pard doesn't let it rest here but, if he does, we lost the partscore battle in a matchpoint event - not good.

It was quite nightmarrish to score this board because we belong in diamonds and so much can happen. (4 makes, but that's just lucky)

If you pass pard might get cold feet and pass as well, for a likely -110 (no way you're finding the club ruff lol). If he bids, it's probably going to be 3 and then you'll probably bid 3NT. Then pard may, or may not, pull to a red suit.

If you bid 2NT pard will bid a red suit. If he bids hearts, you'll probably try 3NT and pard will probably pass that. If he rebids diamonds, you're more or less in the same case as pass.

If you bid 3 you probably won't stop below game and that game is likely to be 3NT, which is doomed after a spade lead.

Finally, if you dbl pard will bid 4 and you're basically stuck :)

All in all it's too many ifs. But I think you'll have a better chance at going plus if you don't dbl or bid 3, so those get the lower score.
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Posted 2011-February-08, 20:44

fwiw I prefer a style where any bid by opener after 2nt is forcing including 3d here. With the given hand I guess opener is stuck with pass of 2nt.

In this case 2nt making has chances.

One of the rare times I actually play in 2nt...:)
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Posted 2011-February-08, 22:16

I wouldn't have opened the North hand, and I don't think its close.

If I bid 2N and partner bids 3, does this really make 3N attractive?
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Posted 2011-February-08, 22:31

View PostPhil, on 2011-February-08, 22:16, said:

I wouldn't have opened the North hand, and I don't think its close.

If I bid 2N and partner bids 3, does this really make 3N attractive?


Agree. Lucy was holding the football for Linus again.
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