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Posted 2011-February-01, 04:48
Both majors and a ZAR opener. Will you join the Dark Side?
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Posted 2011-February-01, 07:51
No, I don't open balanced 10-counts.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2011-February-01, 10:11
Pass. This and #7 are style driven. If I were playing a strong club, both of these would be openers, but I'm not.
Ergo, they are both lousy problems.
Ergo, they are both lousy problems.
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Posted 2011-February-01, 10:34
pass on second position, might be tempted to open on first and would open in third
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Posted 2011-February-01, 11:34
1♥, maybe part of my strong club influences, but we also have 2 bullets, a couple of neat intermediates in the long suits to chunk it up, and both majors.
How forcing is 1NT here by BBF Standard rules? Can I pass with a minimum with no good rebid? I admit I didn't think of that when I bid 1♥ because a forcing 1NT lends itself to pass.
How forcing is 1NT here by BBF Standard rules? Can I pass with a minimum with no good rebid? I admit I didn't think of that when I bid 1♥ because a forcing 1NT lends itself to pass.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2011-February-01, 12:33
Pass. Given we have both majors and our suits aren't very good, what is the rush to get into the auction?
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Posted 2011-February-01, 12:57
Easy pass unless we're strong clubbing
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Posted 2011-February-02, 07:28
Easy pass, and I don't play F*! 
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Posted 2011-February-02, 08:52
whereagles, on 2011-February-01, 04:48, said:
Both majors and a ZAR opener. Will you join the Dark Side?
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Posted 2011-February-03, 13:05
Why do people only refer to ZAR for opening bids?
4321 is more accurate for NT contracts and ZAR is more accurate for suit contracts. But when opening the bidding you generally don't know which it will be. You certainly don't on this hand. If you start off using 4321 and find a major fit you can switch to ZAR or whatever and catch up. If you open based on ZAR and find partner with a misfitting 12 or 13 you can never stop.
Otherwise use a hybrid method like 11-7-4-2-1 (which rates this a 10.8 so still a pass).
4321 is more accurate for NT contracts and ZAR is more accurate for suit contracts. But when opening the bidding you generally don't know which it will be. You certainly don't on this hand. If you start off using 4321 and find a major fit you can switch to ZAR or whatever and catch up. If you open based on ZAR and find partner with a misfitting 12 or 13 you can never stop.
Otherwise use a hybrid method like 11-7-4-2-1 (which rates this a 10.8 so still a pass).
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Posted 2011-February-03, 13:09
1h I try and open almost all ten point hands nv in first and second seat with 4s that are not 4333.
Here I got both majors.
of course pard needs to know this.
Here I got both majors.
of course pard needs to know this.
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Posted 2011-February-09, 12:59
Full hand:
We all know that light openers can be quite effective at matchpoints, even if your style is that of sounder opening bids. The question is whether you're bold enough to fire the first shot and stand up for your choice or to wait for a better opportunity.
Opening 1♥ gives you a good shot at competing and preempts minors, whereas pass has the redeeming feature of being able to later show your hand at a convenient level, given you have the majors.
In practice, if you pass it may very well be your final move on this board and that won't score well (not many players opened the West hand at these colors), as 8-9 tricks are available in hearts. Regardless of our beliefs, opening 1♥ here would have worked better than pass and it gets thus the better score.
We all know that light openers can be quite effective at matchpoints, even if your style is that of sounder opening bids. The question is whether you're bold enough to fire the first shot and stand up for your choice or to wait for a better opportunity.
Opening 1♥ gives you a good shot at competing and preempts minors, whereas pass has the redeeming feature of being able to later show your hand at a convenient level, given you have the majors.
In practice, if you pass it may very well be your final move on this board and that won't score well (not many players opened the West hand at these colors), as 8-9 tricks are available in hearts. Regardless of our beliefs, opening 1♥ here would have worked better than pass and it gets thus the better score.
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Posted 2011-February-09, 13:28
What sort of auction are you expecting where we get shut out after not opening?
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Posted 2011-February-10, 08:24
You don't get shut out. Just that pard might decide not to open in 4th seat.
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Posted 2011-February-10, 10:31
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Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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