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A Reasonable Diamond Holding

#1 User is offline   VM1973 

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Posted 2011-August-11, 16:55

You hold:
♠AJ
♥AK
♦AKQJ10972
♣2

Pass-Pass-???

How does one bid such a hand?

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Posted 2011-August-11, 17:28

2♣-2♥(no ace or king)-5♦

If you don't play this system:

2♣-2♦-4♦(solid suit, please cue)-5♦
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Posted 2011-August-11, 18:58

I would open 2C!
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Posted 2011-August-11, 19:48

Anything works. Whatever sets trump and demands control bidding. The immediate 2H negative breaks even this time vs other methods. Doesn't make it a good idea, IMO.
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Posted 2011-August-11, 19:51

I'm a huge fan of playing 2♥ as a double negative, and here it will help a fair amount. Unfortunately I don't have the methods to find out if partner has the ♦8 and ♥Q, and I suggest that anyone who does should probably take up another game. Even 2♣-2♦-4N as a queen ask won't do, since we need an entry. I suppose even 6x might be enough on a good day... Once again, I don't think I can ever find out this information. I would bid 2♣-2♥-5♦-P and give up on other possibilities. Obviously at MPs I might punt 3N.
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Posted 2011-August-11, 20:39

you are already 55% to make 6♦ so bidding that can't be horrible however if partner holds ♣A and either of the 2 black K you are making 7♦ (I am not saying this is the only holding that will make that) so perhaps a forcing to game call (i.e. SA's 2♣ call) is in order followed by a call that shows a solid suit should help you find out that information.
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Posted 2011-August-12, 03:40

opening 2♣ will immediately show me if I can ever make slam or not. When partner responds 2♥ negative, he won't have ♠K or ♣A, in which case I can just play 5♦. Otherwise I'll ask for Aces and maybe Kings.
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Posted 2011-August-12, 12:47

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-August-11, 18:58, said:

I would open 2C!


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Posted 2011-August-13, 02:27

View PostLurpoa, on 2011-August-12, 12:47, said:

♥ Tell us why ? ♥

♥ Don't tell us what to do, you may try asking friendly though... ♥
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Posted 2011-August-13, 13:40

View PostFree, on 2011-August-13, 02:27, said:

♥ Don't tell us what to do, you may try asking friendly though... ♥



♥
I askes with ♥.

isn't that friendly enough, for.....

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