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What do you play 3♣ as? What's better?
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What do you play this sequence as? A simple bid
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Posted 2011-September-07, 21:06
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2011-September-07, 23:20
I like 2♣ to still be inverted after they overcall 1 of a suit, in which case 3♣ is still minimum-without-major-stoppers... but I realize that's going to be a minority viewpoint.
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Posted 2011-September-08, 00:08
Hanoi5, on 2011-September-07, 21:06, said:
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What do you play 3♣ as? What's better?
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What do you play 3♣ as? What's better?
I prefer 3c here as a blocking bid, minimum.
2c by pard is weakish.
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Posted 2011-September-08, 01:46
Playing inverted minors in competition as horrible imo, I prefer 2♣ to be a simple raise. 3♣ in this sequence is rather preemptive, opener has many ways to try an invite otherwise.
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Posted 2011-September-08, 03:23
Free, on 2011-September-08, 01:46, said:
Playing inverted minors in competition as horrible imo, I prefer 2♣ to be a simple raise. 3♣ in this sequence is rather preemptive, opener has many ways to try an invite otherwise.
My sentiments exactly. It's not a total bar bid. It shows a good playing hand with some club length and invites pard to go to 4♣ if LHO gets active again. Maybe:Ax
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Posted 2011-September-08, 03:29
For me 3♣ is non invitational.
If opener wants to invite he can bid 2M or 2NT.
If opener wants to invite he can bid 2M or 2NT.
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Posted 2011-September-08, 07:50
2C is a simple weak raise, 3C inv.
Something more elaborate may be better, the 1D overcall did not take away any bid,
so you could keep your complete agreement set, but where do you draw the line?
After a 1H / 1S overcall?
And does the same apply, if we opened 1D / 1H, they overcall 1H / 1S?
Will you be able to remember this?
Sry, for me best is KISS as much as possible.
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Something more elaborate may be better, the 1D overcall did not take away any bid,
so you could keep your complete agreement set, but where do you draw the line?
After a 1H / 1S overcall?
And does the same apply, if we opened 1D / 1H, they overcall 1H / 1S?
Will you be able to remember this?
Sry, for me best is KISS as much as possible.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2011-September-08, 09:05
2♣ is 6-10. The thing is opener might want to invite to 3NT WITHOUT a diamond stopper. But I think 2♦ could help in that situation: it's forcing, partner can even show his range if he has the stopper, etc.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win
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Posted 2011-September-09, 02:53
Not invitational, with ♣ length for me
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Posted 2011-September-09, 13:06
Not defined in my pet system, but by meta-agreements I'd say pard would take this as 5 clubs, min hand.
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Posted 2011-September-12, 10:28
P_Marlowe, on 2011-September-08, 07:50, said:
2C is a simple weak raise, 3C inv.
Something more elaborate may be better, the 1D overcall did not take away any bid,
so you could keep your complete agreement set, but where do you draw the line?
After a 1H / 1S overcall?
And does the same apply, if we opened 1D / 1H, they overcall 1H / 1S?
Will you be able to remember this?
Sry, for me best is KISS as much as possible.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Something more elaborate may be better, the 1D overcall did not take away any bid,
so you could keep your complete agreement set, but where do you draw the line?
After a 1H / 1S overcall?
And does the same apply, if we opened 1D / 1H, they overcall 1H / 1S?
Will you be able to remember this?
Sry, for me best is KISS as much as possible.
With kind regards
Marlowe
There is not much to remember. If another bid is possible, raising to three is not invitational. Here "another bid" is 2♦.
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