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A Judgement Call Partner preempts

Poll: A Judgement Call (22 member(s) have cast votes)

Your bid?

  1. Pass (16 votes [72.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 72.73%

  2. 4 Hearts (6 votes [27.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

  3. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2012-July-26, 18:56

hmmmmmmmmmmmm i have way more information than anyone else at the table
and NOONE has a clue what i am doing or why. The opps points rate to be evenly divided
and it is extremely unlikely either opp will have anything close to the values needed to x my


4h

bid. Yes my hand is gross but there is no reason either opps would think its as bad as it is.
The odds of my going -800 are ethereal. Passing leaves the oppps a ton more room to find
their minor suit fit. Dont just look at your cards and decide use the table clues as well.
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Posted 2012-July-26, 21:41

View Postgszes, on 2012-July-26, 18:56, said:

hmmmmmmmmmmmm i have way more information than anyone else at the table
and NOONE has a clue what i am doing or why. The opps points rate to be evenly divided
and it is extremely unlikely either opp will have anything close to the values needed to x my


4h

bid. Yes my hand is gross but there is no reason either opps would think its as bad as it is.
The odds of my going -800 are ethereal. Passing leaves the oppps a ton more room to find
their minor suit fit. Dont just look at your cards and decide use the table clues as well.


I am curious as to why you make gross bids?
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2012-July-26, 21:48

View Postgszes, on 2012-July-26, 18:56, said:

hmmmmmmmmmmmm i have way more information than anyone else at the table
and NOONE has a clue what i am doing or why. The opps points rate to be evenly divided
and it is extremely unlikely either opp will have anything close to the values needed to x my


4h

bid. Yes my hand is gross but there is no reason either opps would think its as bad as it is.
The odds of my going -800 are ethereal. Passing leaves the oppps a ton more room to find
their minor suit fit. Dont just look at your cards and decide use the table clues as well.


Given the values you know they have (but they don't have a handle on) you just forced them to double you or bid a game you probably can't beat. You did kibosh any slam bid by them but they already said they weren't bidding it by their previous (in)action.

My partners don't open 3 with hands good enough to open 1.
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Posted 2012-July-27, 20:39

View Postthe hog, on 2012-July-26, 21:41, said:

I am curious as to why you make gross bids?


my apologies for being unclear----the range of my hand for 4h
can be anywhere from the given hand (or maybe somewhat worse)
up to maybe

KQJx
K
KQJx
KQJx


bidding 4h here is a "bluff" but unlike obvious preemptive raises
this one can be made with an extremely strong hand with no slam
interest. The bluff tries to take advantage of the opps lack of
knowledge (due to thier passes) and tries to keep them from
finding their optimum spot. Passing with the weaker hands merely
encourages lho to balance when reasonable since the risk factor
is much lower than it is over 4h.

Like all bluffs sometimes the opps will call the bluff but most of the time
their hearing each other pass will act as a strong deterrent to further
bidding on their part for fear we have the strongest hand at the table.
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Posted 2012-July-28, 01:59

View Postgszes, on 2012-July-26, 18:56, said:

NOONE has a clue what i am doing or why.




Well that statement is certainly true!
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2012-July-28, 02:05

View Postjdeegan, on 2012-July-26, 03:15, said:

:P IMP pairs scoring. Both sides vul. LHO deals and passes. Partner, an expert, bids 3. RHO passes. Opponents are competent. Do you bid or pass?

You hold:

Q8652
J102
Q93
106

pass
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Posted 2012-July-29, 08:59

If partner preempts on 6 cards in this seat RHO could have a penalty pass and just be waiting for his partner to reopen, and then dollar signs appear in his eyes when we raise the bidding a level.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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