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Hey partner...do you like my clubs?

#1 User is offline   RunemPard 

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Posted 2012-July-26, 10:20

Sorry, the hands are not showing up on our club's bridge site...but I have a general idea of the hands held.

1st to bid...NV vs. V

- Kx
- x
- Kx
- AKQJT985

Partner's hand...
Spoiler


Our bidding+opening lead...
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Posted 2012-July-27, 03:41

It seems like you answered your own question on the bidding. You do not think that opening 2 on this hand is a great choice so the only alternative for you would have been 1. Personally, I think opening 2 and rebidding 4 is a perfectly reasonable description of this hand. And if the bidding is going to come back to us in 4 then surely 2 - (3) - P/X - (4); 5 is at least as good as 1 - (3) - P - (4); 5. These kinds of hands are ones where you have to decide whether to treat as a one opener, a strong 2 or a game force. That is more of a style issue than anything so any of the three might be correct for a given partnership.

Finally, I do not understand your Multi auction at all. A 2 response to a Multi 2 is typically used to say the Responder dislikes spades but would be willing to go to at least 3 if Opener has hearts. Some play this as specifically invitational in hearts and others that it can be merely preemptive but it must surely always show a liking for hearts! It is pretty difficult to comment on the rest of the auction too. It seems that West's 4NT is RKCB with hearts agreed which seems like a bizarre choice. It was surely meant as quantitative but whatever, it left West with little choice but to retreat to 6NT. I cannot say I am especially enamoured with the auction - at least it reached a decent resting place though.

My auction would likely be:-

1 = 15+ bat/bal or 18+ any
... - 1 = 4+ spades, if bal or 3-suited then also 4 hearts, GF
1 = relay, usually 18+
... - 1NT = 4+ hearts
2 = relay
... - 2 = 4 spades, 5+ hearts, not 45(40)
2 = relay
... - 2NT = 5 hearts
3 = relay
... - 4 = 4531, extras, 4 controls
4 = relay
... - 4NT = heart control, no spade control
5 = relay
... - 5 = diamond control, no club control
5 = relay
... - 6 = Q, 2 of top 3 in hearts, only 1 of top 3 in diamonds
6NT

As a play problem, 6NT by Opener seems to be more interesting on a heart lead than a diamond.
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Posted 2012-July-27, 05:37

Over 2 multi I would bid 4 with responder hand (bid your suit in transfer). I personally play 2 as only weak 2 in a major, but even when having some strong hands in it, partner will have weak 2 in 95+% of the time. So a normal auction would be

2-4
5- 6/NT

Personally I would open the hand 1 and rebid 3N over 1, which partner will raise to 6
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Posted 2012-July-27, 06:48

You reached the best contract on a freak hand, sounds like a success to me.
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Posted 2012-July-27, 11:52

View Postbillw55, on 2012-July-27, 06:48, said:

You reached the best contract on a freak hand, sounds like a success to me.


How would you feel if a heart had been led?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2012-July-27, 13:03

View PostHanoi5, on 2012-July-27, 11:52, said:

How would you feel if a heart had been led?

Hmm yes .. since 6 is cold, that is better at IMPs. At MPs, I might still want to be in 6NT: hook the heart at trick one, if it loses (probable, but not certain) run the clubs and try to read the position.

6NT from the other side would be ideal of course.
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Posted 2012-July-27, 17:39

View PostRunemPard, on 2012-July-26, 10:20, said:

Sorry, the hands are not showing up on our club's bridge site...but I have a general idea of the hands held.

1st to bid...NV vs. V

- Kx
- x
- Kx
- AKQJT985

Partner's hand...

- Qxxx
- AQxxx
- AJx
- x


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1C - 1H
2S! ( GF, could be artificial ) - 2NT! ( asks clarification )
4C ( 3C would show long , no 4 cds , no 3cds ; but 4C sets trumps, asks for cuebids ) - 4D ( cue, not kickback )
4S ( can't cue shortness in partner's suit, ) - 5H
6C
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