Phil, on 2012-August-11, 11:09, said:
I hope I never implied he was.
I think the double doesn't deny four spades is the superior approach, even though it can lead to some awkward continuations later.
I think the double doesn't deny four spades is the superior approach, even though it can lead to some awkward continuations later.
I think that in this case your partners honour structure was all wrong for pulling, especially opposite a passed hand. Shape is not the only consideration.
JLOGIC, on 2012-August-11, 15:41, said:
Obviously if the t/o Xer has that. I meant if the responsive Xer has that and his partner bids 4S, should he pass when he has 3 spades? If he passes he will be in a 4-3 if the t/o Xer is supposed to routinely pull the X to 4S with 4 of them and if he bids he might be pulling out of a 5-3 if the t/o Xer has 5 spades.
I would never double 2H with 5143 shape when I have two spades available. Maybe, if the spades were really poor, but it would not be a default action at all. Is it normal to double with, say, KJxxx x AQx Axxxx? I would bid 2S and hope to double later if partner couldn't raise.

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