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What's your plan how high will you force it over partner's various replies?

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Posted 2012-September-03, 20:57



Do you agree with the double?

What call do you take over the possible 4♠, 4nt, 5♣, and 5♦ responses.

Edit: I was mixing up 2 hands, first position passed on this, not 2♥, rest of auction and hand the same.

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Posted 2012-September-03, 21:28

View PostMbodell, on 2012-September-03, 20:57, said:



Do you agree with the double?

What call do you take over the possible 4♠, 4nt, 5♣, and 5♦ responses.


I'm going to bid 5H over all of those calls.
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Posted 2012-September-03, 22:09

I am going to pass (over a suit) - I have been taught when preempted, just get to a sensible spot and stay there, don't worry about the perfect spot.
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Posted 2012-September-03, 22:43

If partner bids a suit, he is bidding to make vul vs not. Even though your X is take-out, he shouldn't take it out with a flat shape, so he ought to have playing strength. It would be clear to force to slam with a 30 point deck and great controls, the question in my mind is whether to invite grand. I think this hand is good enough to do so.
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Posted 2012-September-04, 01:30

Well I would expect my partners to take out my take out doubles. Most hands, balanced or not with 4S and no heart honours would bid 4S and not pass the double. So after my x and partner's 4S bid, I would bid 5H, but would not be that confident. I don't think it is at all that clear as Chris thinks. Perhaps he has different expectations of what his partner would do?
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Posted 2012-September-04, 02:32

I am % 100 with Chris on this one, not much i can add to what he already said tbh....I mean yeah, i also don't look for perfect spot after they preempted heavily but cmon...this hand is way too strong to just DBL and pass, 19 hcp, all prime cards and whatever pd bids we have at least 4 of them + a void in enemy suit.
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Posted 2012-September-04, 02:50

I agree with finding a sensible spot and playing there but in this case that principle would just mean raising to the 6 level, definitely not passing. I'd still bid 5H in case partner is strongish. (he can be, especially if his bid was 5m)
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Posted 2012-September-04, 03:55

So I assume you would not bid 4S on
Qxxx
xxx
xxxx
xx

Well then playing with you I could not/would not double on
AKxxx
void
Kxxx
Axxx

4HX looks like a pretty decent contract.
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