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None vul, 4th seat.
♠Ax
♥Tx
♦AT9xx
♣J8xx
LHO opens 3♣. Partner passes. RHO jumps to 4♥.
1) Supposing it goes pass-pass-pass, what do you lead?
2) Supposing it goes pass-pass-double-pass back to you,
A) What kind of hand to you expect from partner, and
B) If you leave 4HX, what do you lead now?
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Posted 2012-September-08, 02:06
I lead ♠A regardless
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Posted 2012-September-08, 03:30
I'd lead club in both auctions.
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Posted 2012-September-08, 07:43
Now if we could just get a consensus...
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Posted 2012-September-08, 11:08
I assume 4♥ is a (strong) single suited hand. I assume partner will NOT double in balancing seat with ♥ length <-- basic discipline. 4th seat's double of 4♥ in direct seat would be penalty.
Thinking about what partner might have:
1) Good hand, but wrong shape for action over 3♣: 4441 w/ stiff not in ♣, 2443 with one 4-card major and 3 ♣ or a 4333 hand not worthy of 1NT overcall. With 5+-card suit presumably partner will overcall.
2) Fair hand, too weak for an initial takeout double over 3♣. 4432 or 4441 w/ ♣ shortness.
3) Fair to light hand with other 2 suits. We can discount 3)w/ 55 or 45 patterns since partner would likely overcall 4♠ in balancing seat. If 4♠=6♦ partner would (should) start with a 3♦ overcall. However 4=3=4=2 is possible (see 1).
Not knowing your partner's affection for discipline, I would trust partner has 4=3=4=2 and opening values. High level doubles like this should not have trump shortness, rather should be more cooperative shape.
To the OP:
1) With no double I lead 3rhd highest ♣. Perhaps partner is short or better, we exhaust a dummy entry before it can be put to good use.
2) With the double, and the 4=3=4=2 shape I suspect from partner, I lead {spades]A then read partner's signal.
Since I do not think our side has 11 tricks but we do have 4 QTs, I pass partner's double. I hope to score ♠AK and a ruff, and 2 minor Aces at the very least. Partner should contribute one if not 2 tricks more.
Thinking about what partner might have:
1) Good hand, but wrong shape for action over 3♣: 4441 w/ stiff not in ♣, 2443 with one 4-card major and 3 ♣ or a 4333 hand not worthy of 1NT overcall. With 5+-card suit presumably partner will overcall.
2) Fair hand, too weak for an initial takeout double over 3♣. 4432 or 4441 w/ ♣ shortness.
3) Fair to light hand with other 2 suits. We can discount 3)w/ 55 or 45 patterns since partner would likely overcall 4♠ in balancing seat. If 4♠=6♦ partner would (should) start with a 3♦ overcall. However 4=3=4=2 is possible (see 1).
Not knowing your partner's affection for discipline, I would trust partner has 4=3=4=2 and opening values. High level doubles like this should not have trump shortness, rather should be more cooperative shape.
To the OP:
1) With no double I lead 3rhd highest ♣. Perhaps partner is short or better, we exhaust a dummy entry before it can be put to good use.
2) With the double, and the 4=3=4=2 shape I suspect from partner, I lead {spades]A then read partner's signal.
Since I do not think our side has 11 tricks but we do have 4 QTs, I pass partner's double. I hope to score ♠AK and a ruff, and 2 minor Aces at the very least. Partner should contribute one if not 2 tricks more.
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Posted 2012-September-08, 11:24
An opening lead consensus? I'm in the ♠A camp.
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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2012-September-08, 20:03
Partner turned out to have a weakish 5-3-5-0 and hoped his double was takeout.
Unfortunately, I was fingering a club before he doubled, but after the double, I decided on ace and another spade... dummy had Kxx xx x AQTxxxx. Declarer won trick 2, pulled trump, played 4 rounds of clubs, pitching his last diamond as I won the CJ. Minus 690. Yum.
I am encouraged the whole world didn't say "bid 5D" or "obviously lead the club."
Unfortunately, I was fingering a club before he doubled, but after the double, I decided on ace and another spade... dummy had Kxx xx x AQTxxxx. Declarer won trick 2, pulled trump, played 4 rounds of clubs, pitching his last diamond as I won the CJ. Minus 690. Yum.
I am encouraged the whole world didn't say "bid 5D" or "obviously lead the club."
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Posted 2012-September-09, 02:21
Siegmund, on 2012-September-08, 20:03, said:
I am encouraged the whole world didn't say "bid 5D" or "obviously lead the club."
You didn't give us a lot of time to reply.
I'd expect partner to have a weakish 5-5 in the unbid suits, so I'd bid 5♦.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-September-09, 08:02
I think a club lead is clearly indicated (by your post #7)
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Posted 2012-September-09, 19:46
Siegmund, on 2012-September-08, 20:03, said:
Partner turned out to have a weakish 5-3-5-0 and hoped his double was takeout.
Unfortunately, I was fingering a club before he doubled, but after the double, I decided on ace and another spade... dummy had Kxx xx x AQTxxxx. Declarer won trick 2, pulled trump, played 4 rounds of clubs, pitching his last diamond as I won the CJ. Minus 690. Yum.
I am encouraged the whole world didn't say "bid 5D" or "obviously lead the club."
Unfortunately, I was fingering a club before he doubled, but after the double, I decided on ace and another spade... dummy had Kxx xx x AQTxxxx. Declarer won trick 2, pulled trump, played 4 rounds of clubs, pitching his last diamond as I won the CJ. Minus 690. Yum.
I am encouraged the whole world didn't say "bid 5D" or "obviously lead the club."
The bidding needs a lot of work obviously but so does the defence.
That dummy is too strong for pard to own their bid. After A♠ (deuce from pard) low♣, ♦ back, another ♣ and Bob's your uncle.
I would lead a club on the go without the double.
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Posted 2012-September-10, 04:03
I would lead the ace of spades, but there is no way that I continue this suit.
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