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#1 User is offline   daveharty 

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Posted 2012-September-14, 08:00



Matchpoints. Your partner is normally a pretty sound overcaller/preemptor; clearly this is one of his rare flights of fancy. What is your call?

If you bid 4♠:
Spoiler


If you bid 5♦:
Spoiler


If you bid 6♦:
Spoiler


If you pass:
Spoiler


If you bid 5♥:
Spoiler

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Posted 2012-September-14, 09:24

I'd bid 4S and then 5S. In retrospect perhaps I wish I had bid 5D first.
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Posted 2012-September-14, 09:32

...your partner will cry, "I'm sorry! I'm so sorry!" He will stand up and run out of the room; you will hear later that he has given up the game, and moved to Idaho to raise sheep.

I like an immediate 6♦ to give everyone else a headache.

BTW, that's movin to Montana to raise a crop of dental floss.
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Posted 2012-September-14, 11:10

I bid 4♥, and over 5♥ back to me 5♠. Hope partner got the idea.
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Posted 2012-September-14, 12:51

5♦ and then 5♠. I think there's no chance that they'll let me play 4♠, so I may as well show my diamond support first. That way I'll avoid playing 5♠ opposite a singleton.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-September-14, 13:12

View Postgnasher, on 2012-September-14, 12:51, said:

5♦ and then 5♠. I think there's no chance that they'll let me play 4♠, so I may as well show my diamond support first. That way I'll avoid playing 5♠ opposite a singleton.

That's the plan. Haven't checked the spoilers yet, but it looks good.
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Posted 2012-September-15, 04:13

View Postgnasher, on 2012-September-14, 12:51, said:

5♦ and then 5♠. I think there's no chance that they'll let me play 4♠, so I may as well show my diamond support first. That way I'll avoid playing 5♠ opposite a singleton.


Tbh i was not sure about what could be the best plan, your plan seems very logical and convincing, at least for me.
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Posted 2012-September-15, 22:30

Andy is always convincing, but I dislike his plan here. After his 5♠bid, I had known to lead a spade against their 6 ♥, I had never played him for the actual hand and passed 5 ♠. But maybe this is just me...
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Posted 2012-September-16, 04:01

View Postgnasher, on 2012-September-14, 12:51, said:

5♦ and then 5♠. I think there's no chance that they'll let me play 4♠, so I may as well show my diamond support first. That way I'll avoid playing 5♠ opposite a singleton.


Maybe this does work. My immediate reaction was 6D at once, and I still like that.
This route, if partner understands it, is not so much about avoiding playing 5♠ opposite a singleton but more about staying out of 6♦ when partner has a doubleton spade.
The problem is that while I'd be happy to play 6D opposite x xxx Q10xxxxx xx having bid it on the first round, I'd be less happy if I've earmarked a club lead.
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Posted 2012-September-16, 05:48

The opps are headed for +650 (or much more likely) + 680/1430.

IMO dreaming up different ways to get to the cheapest possible
sacrifice misses the point of the hand. We need to try and convince
the opps to not bid 6h because we will then feel compelled to take the
relatively cheap -800 (or maybe less if p is short in spades) sac in 7d.

The opps have 23 hcp so they are far short of the norm for slam
bidding. A direct blast to 6d may make it the most difficult for the opps
because your LHO will probably not be able to use forcing pass to
convince his p to bid on because he will probably be too weak
(opps have 23 hcp) to want to encourage his p to bid on and his
short dia (max xx) will make him leary of mirror distribution.

Anything else we bid will allow the opps extra space to explore for
slam via cue bids and we dont want that.
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Posted 2012-September-17, 01:32

What would double of the 4♦ bid show? I'd like to double 4♦and then bid 4♠ over their 4♥ as I expect pards to stay quiet.

I'd like to play X of the cue as I have a fit with you, an honour in your suit and 'some' reason not to bid on myself. Usually it's a lack of strength to kick further without co-operation (mildly lead directing too) but when I bid 4♠ it shows that I have extra's with a ♠ suit and a ♦ fit as without ♠'s partner 'has' to revert to 5♦.

The other option is to do just bid 6♦ which has some play if Partner has his bid without ♥ honours.

Maybe that's likely with a void so perhaps 4♠ and X 5♥ might be the go. Nah that never works :-)
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Posted 2012-September-17, 06:21



We played 6♦X, an unfortunate spot since 5♥ wasn't making. 5♠ looks interesting, I wish I had tried it.
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Posted 2012-September-17, 08:16

On that layout 5♠ would go lots down if you tried to make it. Maybe you're better off in 6♦.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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