[jeffford76]

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And if you don't leave it in, what's your call?

[RunemPard]

I will pass.

[wyman]

I am salivating. You don't get KQ10Bx sitting over a red preempter that often.

edit: sorry, misread the position. But I'm still salivating, and I'm still sitting.

[Lord Molyb]

Lord Molyb's table of converting takeout to penalties

At each level, if you have X trump tricks, how many outside tricks you need to convert to penalties. If you have more outside tricks you should strongly consider bidding anyways.

Level . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Trump Tricks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Outside Tricks
1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2-3
1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0-2
1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0-1
2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2-3
2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-2
2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0-2
3. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2-3
3. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-3
3. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0-1
4. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-2
4. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0-3

I pass and consider it borderline. Change the ♦10 to the jack and I have an easy pass.

[Thiros]

Like L.M., I considered this very close. If partner's double were reopening and I were BEHIND the preempt, it would be a fast pass, and I would jump to 3♠ if I didn't pass, but I would be nervous at the end of the auction because of the position. The factor that finally tipped me to pass is that 2♦ doubled and making is not game. Switch my red suits and make the preempt a 2♥ opening bid, and 3♠ would be my bid.

[FrancesHinden]

This isn't close, it's an obvious pass.
One of the other considerations when deciding whether to pass or not is whether you have a good alternative bid. If I had 5 spades rather than 4, it would be much much closer.

[CSGibson]

Pass. I expect down 1 or 2 will be most likely, vs a spade partial. If partner has the additional firepower to make a game in spades despite all of my wasted values, then I also expect down 3 to be in the ballpark.

[jeffford76]

Thanks - I thought pass was normal but wanted to confirm. It scored pretty terribly opposite partner's ♠AQ932 ♥K108 ♦void ♣AKQ95.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

jeffford76, on 2013-January-17, 18:18, said:

Thanks - I thought pass was normal but wanted to confirm. It scored pretty terribly opposite partner's
♠AQ932 ♥K108 ♦void ♣AKQ95.

Too bad you & partner hadn't discussed strong 2-suited jumps over a weak-2D open .... much like "Leaping Michaels" over a weak-2H or -2S.

One method after 2D :
3D = stop-ask
4D = majors
3H = ♥ / ♣
3S = ♠ / ♣

[JLOGIC]

Yup extremely normal to pass

[JLOGIC]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2013-January-17, 18:39, said:

Too bad you & partner hadn't discussed strong 2-suited jumps over a weak-2D open .... much like "Leaping Michaels" over a weak-2H or -2S.

One method after 2D :
3D = stop-ask
4D = majors
3H = ♥ / ♣
3S = ♠ / ♣

Maybe they had but the hand preferred not to do so given that they were three suited and could easily belong in hearts.

[jeffford76]

JLOGIC, on 2013-January-17, 20:13, said:

Maybe they had but the hand preferred not to do so given that they were three suited and could easily belong in hearts.

Yup.