[PhilKing]

It is possible to play jumps as promising five-card suits and about 8-10 without having to respond at the one-level with monsters - play the cue bid as f1 9+, just asking partner to bid 4-card suits up the line.

With a minimum double (up to 14), just bid the lowest suit. With 15+ do something stronger. Over a simple suit, responders change of suit or raise is also NF. For example, 1♣-x-pass-2♣-pass-2♥-pass-2♠ shows four spades and is non-forcing.

Both players have to jump again or cue to set up a game force.

[Vampyr]

PhilKing, on 2013-February-23, 13:27, said:

It is possible to play jumps as promising five-card suits and about 8-10 without having to respond at the one-level with monsters - play the cue bid as f1 9+, just asking partner to bid 4-card suits up the line.

Is this a good agreement?

[PhilKing]

Vampyr, on 2013-February-23, 16:13, said:

Is this a good agreement?

It's what I do - so obviously yes.

It's a little trickier after 1M-x, but it's still fine. In my view, you get much more in the way of natural defined auctions. Making strong hands cue again is no hardship.

[lalldonn]

It's a little risky to not show anything with 9 or 10 and a four card suit, but you have some gains too when it's the last thing you make. It also makes it easier to make aggressive doubles. But I have no experience with the Phil suggestion. It seems like a gain when the double has 16 or 17 without great support and would have just passed the simple response.

[barsikb]

han, on 2013-February-23, 12:13, said:

As Helene says, some Dutch pairs play that a jump to 2H shows 5. I do too.

What do you respond with 8-9-10-11 points and a 4-card suit (especially Major)?