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108xxx in opps overcall

Poll: 108xxx in opps overcall (20 member(s) have cast votes)

what would you do?

  1. double (18 votes [90.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 90.00%

  2. 1NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. pass and pass if it comes back doubled (1 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  4. pass and 1NT if it comes back doubled (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. pass and 2H if it comes back doubled (1 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  6. pass and 3H if it comes back doubled (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2013-June-24, 04:58

ALL VUL MPs
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A109

1-(1)-??
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Posted 2013-June-24, 05:02

easy double - i've got nothing in spades and this hand will play well in hearts if partner has a fit - partner can ruff spades (over-ruffing the short hand)
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Posted 2013-June-24, 05:07

X for now...
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Posted 2013-June-24, 05:14

I have 4s and I dont want to make a penalty pass so I double
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Posted 2013-June-24, 10:02

Yeah this is an obvious double.
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Posted 2013-June-24, 11:39

Neg X..I don't understand WTP is?

We want to imply that we have 4, we can tolerate a 2 response, and why tip off the opps that we have a bunch of in case they compete to a higher level in ?
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Posted 2013-June-24, 13:04

I double and pass if partner bids 2 clubs
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Posted 2013-June-24, 13:12

Double seems the only defensible call. We don't have to like it, and it may get us to a horrible minor suit partial, but it may get us to 1N from partner's side (improbable doesn't mean impossible) or hearts at the appropriate level. And 2m might not be as horrible as we fear.

Meanwhile, pass is a non-starter. We are never playing for a penalty with this trump holding, and just what do we propose to do over a reopening double? The hand doesn't justify jumping in hearts (nor does the suit, given that partner doesn't need 4 hearts to reopen) and he'll never believe my hand is this strong if I bid 2.

1N now shows 8-10 in standard methods and there is no reason to upgrade this hand, with the stiff in partner's suit. Just as importantly, we can get to notrump if I show hearts: we can't get to hearts if I show notrump.

That latter reason is why I don't pass and then bid 1N over the expected reopening double.
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