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diamonds/spades? level? terminator?

#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2014-July-13, 12:28

Bidding practice, but let's say red@imps.

Kxx
ATxx
QJ9x
Ax

1-2 11-17, 5+-GF relay
2-2NT 15-17 with -relay
3-3 5-4 - relay
3-??? 5143 - ???

You can do the following:
  • bid 4 terminator to sign off in 4
  • bid 4 terminator to sign off in 5
  • bid 4, slam invite
  • bid 5, slam invite
  • bid 4 (puppet to 4) then 4 RKC for
  • bid 4 (puppet to 4) then 4 RKC for

We don't really have a clever spiral ask after the bottom two options, I guess we should...
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Posted 2014-July-13, 13:08

We are missing appr 10 HCPs, with a little luck that includes most of KQJ QJ so we have almost everything else. So I want to be in slam. If I can't verify both KQ and K (or, alternatively, K K KQ) I am not going for 7. I think I'll just blast 6.
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Posted 2014-July-13, 14:26

AQJxx x AKxx xxx is an excellent grand slam, and so is AQxxx x AKxx Kxx. Axxxx x AKxx KQx is OK too. Can I agree diamonds, hear about three keycards, and then bid 5 as a grand-slam try?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2014-July-13, 15:05

You have the space, you should have a way of making a 6-ace ask.

With the system given, I keycard in spades then bid 5N over 2+ which hopefully asks for a side K other than hearts which I could have asked for by bidding 5, if partner bids 6 I bid 6 which I would expect partner to raise to 7 with the K.
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Posted 2014-July-13, 18:21

I'd key card in diamonds, and assuming 3, then I'd king ask. As long as he doesn't show the K I think I want to be in 7. If he has the K of clubs I want to be in 7 (not guaranteed, but quite likely I think since partner will of shown 14 and any of Q or Q should be enough to make spades good on reasonable splits, and if neither of those a black J is good enough for a finesse at worse for the same). If he doesn't have the K of clubs or hearts then he has 11 points from A and AK and the missing cards are QJ, QJ, and QJ and he needs at least 4 points. The spades are each 4 times as likely as the hearts and 4/3 as likely as the clubs based on his shape and known cards.
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Posted 2014-July-17, 01:08

Partner had a slightly unhelpful singleton heart:

AJxxx
K
ATxx
Kxx

And spades and diamonds were both offside (I keycarded in spades for what it's worth). Oh well.
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Posted 2014-July-18, 00:11

That hand belongs in Bridge Hell, that's awful to bid a very nice slam that goes off.
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Posted 2014-July-18, 02:17

Opener should not count the stiff H as part of his 15 count, but should downgrade the hand. Also 3S is awfully high for showing a 1345 shape.
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