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Posted 2014-November-10, 01:19
We had a heated discussion last week. You play cuebid as INV+ with 3 card fit, 2NT as INV+ with 4 card fit, support doubles,...; the usual stuff. What do the following bids mean regarding strength and ♥ length:
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Posted 2014-November-10, 01:30
Free, on 2014-November-10, 01:19, said:
We had a heated discussion last week. You play cuebid as INV+ with 3 card fit, 2NT as INV+ with 4 card fit, support doubles,...; the usual stuff. What do the following bids mean regarding strength and ♥ length:
1. This should be extras/desire to penalize; unusual vs. unusual should take precedence over support doubles.
2. 4♥, fairly min. Many other calls are available as stronger raises here.
3. 3♥, short spades, extras. Not a "simple" support double (they don't go this high).
4. 4♥, enough to accept an invite (a max weak NT is fine).
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Posted 2014-November-10, 04:02
1. 3+ hearts, normal raise
2. 4 hearts, some extras (unless 2NT covers this hand)
3. 5+ clubs, 4(+) diamonds, 0-2 spades, 2-3 hearts. Should have some extras too.
4. 4 hearts, extras
3 and 4 also depends on what 2NT would mean (Good/Bad seems valid as a candidate)
2. 4 hearts, some extras (unless 2NT covers this hand)
3. 5+ clubs, 4(+) diamonds, 0-2 spades, 2-3 hearts. Should have some extras too.
4. 4 hearts, extras
3 and 4 also depends on what 2NT would mean (Good/Bad seems valid as a candidate)
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Posted 2014-November-10, 10:12
#1 ...AWM's suggestion of U/U and penalty suggestion is our preference.
#3....Would like to reserve the Double to strongly suggest my RHO has made a mistake, especially at the colors given.
#3....Would like to reserve the Double to strongly suggest my RHO has made a mistake, especially at the colors given.
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Posted 2014-November-12, 02:18
#1 Either Top Honor, or interest in penalty, you need to decide
#2 to play, fit, nothing else, you have 2S and other bids to make some noise
In the end it comes down to the meaning of 2NT, if you play Lebensohl / Good Bad, than the raises show fit and
add. values.
#3 If agreed, this could be a suppX situation, showing add. values, we play it as T/O, which is quite similar
#4 to play
In the end it comes down to the meaning of 2NT, if you play Lebensohl / Good Bad, than the raises show fit and
add. values.
With kind regards
Marlowe
#2 to play, fit, nothing else, you have 2S and other bids to make some noise
In the end it comes down to the meaning of 2NT, if you play Lebensohl / Good Bad, than the raises show fit and
add. values.
#3 If agreed, this could be a suppX situation, showing add. values, we play it as T/O, which is quite similar
#4 to play
In the end it comes down to the meaning of 2NT, if you play Lebensohl / Good Bad, than the raises show fit and
add. values.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2014-November-12, 02:48
1- Definitely 3 card ♥ for me. It is important to mention your 3 card fit when they show 2 suiter. Not much you can do if their fit is in spades but if E bids 3♦ responder will not now when to bid 3 or 4♥ lacking the information about how many hearts opener has. Opener can punish them by passing 2♥ and then doubling if he wants to. I will not spare an important bid for penalty purposes especially when they get in red/white in front of opener.
2 and 4 - These are same for me. Opener has either a minimum unbalanced hand with 4 card support, or semi balanced hand with a little extra (14-15 2425 unless you are always opening these 1 NT)
3-This may vary depending on your agreements, such as 'good-bad' 2 NT was available or not. I do not have strong opinion on this one.
Extra: In #1 (and partly in #2) there is a lot to be said about the cues by opener. (2♠ or 3♦)
2 and 4 - These are same for me. Opener has either a minimum unbalanced hand with 4 card support, or semi balanced hand with a little extra (14-15 2425 unless you are always opening these 1 NT)
3-This may vary depending on your agreements, such as 'good-bad' 2 NT was available or not. I do not have strong opinion on this one.
Extra: In #1 (and partly in #2) there is a lot to be said about the cues by opener. (2♠ or 3♦)
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