[cherdano]

I just don't understand why everyone is so excited about slam.

Phil, on 2015-February-23, 15:03, said:

I like 5♥. The ♦A plus expected good spades gives us around 15 tricks.

Assuming partner doesn't fess up to the Ace, I don't relish partner being board locked immediately but I expect something for the sound weak 2 besides KJxxxx. Either minor suit Q helps or the ♥K stops the taps to my hand.

How does, say, the ♦Q help? Let's give partner
KJTxxx xxx Qx xx. On a heart lead, what's your plan? The best plan I can come up with needs spades 3-2 and no diamond ruff. Not good odds on this bidding. And I feel generous for giving partner ♠T.

I am not sure it gets much better when we assume partner to have a bit more shape. KJxxxx xxxx x Qx and 4♠ is an interesting play problem on a heart lead.

[kuhchung]

too late Arend, 6S was cold. we'll never get any support now

[gszes]

It did not come up in conversation but what would everyone take 4n as? The fact that we have a void seems to discourage far too many from ever considering something like key card because they want "science" even though our fine game is mostly based on probability. I would not hesitate to bid 4n rkc and if p showed 2 I would suspect the odds are 80%+ they had the dia ace and spade K and would go for 7s. Is everyone using 4n as asking p to bid a minor suit? I am curious.

[Aardv]

I think I'd bid 5♦. If the auction dies here it might be the right spot, or if they bid 5♥ I'll bid 5♠ involving partner.