Has U.S. Democracy Been Trumped? Bernie Sanders wants to know who owns America?
#17422
Posted 2021-January-06, 10:41
cherdano, on 2021-January-06, 08:14, said:
To be honest, when I read the first post I thought it was irony. It was not until some way through the second (long) post that I realised it was meant seriously. It makes me wonder if we have another ozone issue or something - there seems to be something in the air in Australia at the moment...
#17423
Posted 2021-January-06, 10:45
#17424
Posted 2021-January-06, 12:13
https://www.washingt...s-live-updates/
" The USA is embarrassed by fools"
Indeed yes, but better days might lie ahead.
#17425
Posted 2021-January-06, 12:41
#17426
Posted 2021-January-06, 13:37
Can't help but note that this is why they coined the expression "A whiff of grapeshot"
#17427
Posted 2021-January-06, 14:08
The contrast between today's Trump-supporter protest and the BLM protests in Washington is pretty stark. Both right and left-wing protests seem to be largely peaceful with a small fraction of violent extremists, yet the reaction is so different!
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#17428
Posted 2021-January-06, 14:12
Guess who is blocking their deployment.
The mayor of DC has made an official request that the National Guard be deployed.
The Defense Department is refusing.
#17429
Posted 2021-January-06, 14:38
#17430
Posted 2021-January-06, 14:40
#17431
Posted 2021-January-06, 14:43
Worth remembering that Trump styled a few golfers at Bedminster as a protest movement.
Echoes of Germany in the 1930s without the same desperation.
#17432
Posted 2021-January-06, 15:05
#17433
Posted 2021-January-06, 15:05
As I am almost sure it won't, at least everyone who cares to know now knows who he is.
https://twitter.com/...913744736157714
#17434
Posted 2021-January-06, 15:15
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[color=var(--color-ui-gray-darkest)]One who claimed to have broken into the halls of the Capitol bragged to a fellow demonstrator about how scared the employees must have been.[/color]
[color=var(--color-ui-gray-darkest)]“There was coffee still sitting there and everything,” he said. “They must have just ran.”The man, who would not give his name, said he fled the building after a woman was shot.[/color]
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And so on.
And so on.
And so on.
So scaring workers is fun, but he draws the line at shooting women. This is what we have come to. May this please be over soon.
#17435
Posted 2021-January-06, 15:23
Immediately.
#17436
Posted 2021-January-06, 15:41
I feel the time has arrived for one specific word to be excised and replaced by a "new reality" alternative that reflect whatever is prevailing (politically) in the USA.
#17437
Posted 2021-January-06, 15:46
cherdano, on 2021-January-06, 15:05, said:
As I am almost sure it won't, at least everyone who cares to know now knows who he is.
https://twitter.com/...913744736157714
I feel sure Hawley has miscalculated and that it will cost him dearly. But I have been wrong before.
#17438
Posted 2021-January-06, 15:46
#17439
Posted 2021-January-06, 16:07
y66, on 2021-January-06, 15:46, said:
He is 41 so the most important thing to him at this point of his career is the support of the conservative base and name recognition. This little diversion is giving him both. Expect him to make a Presidential run in 8-12 years' time.
#17440
Posted 2021-January-06, 16:10
We need some top Rs and Ds to get together. McC and Pelosi certainly but we need others. They need to collectively say something like:
"Donald Trump has made it very clear that he does not accept the results of the election and he does not intend to willing accept the transfer of the presidency to Joe Biden. We, the undersigned, do accept that Joe Biden has won the presidency, we accept the election is legitimate, and we are determined to see that the presidency is transferred to Joe Biden on January 20. Ongoing events have caused great concern. We very much hope that Donald Trump will acknowledge that Joe Biden will rightfully and peacefully become president on January 20. We will assure that the transfer of the presidency takes place, that will be done regardless. We hope that Donald trump, starting immediately, will acknowledge that this transfer will take place, but we are prepared to do what is necessary to assure that the transfer does take place. "
No doubt someone could write it better.
But we have reached a crisis. There really is very little time to debate this, maybe 24 hours, maybe 48. But it looks very much like this will go very badly. We must do what we can to make it go better, but we must be prepared to deal with reality if Donald Trump continues on the path he has taken. That road leads to very dark places, but we have to deal with it as it happens.
Who i the Republican Party will support tis? A good question, but those who deny the reality we face are not fit to be in any position of leadership.
This is serious. Serious issues must be dealt with. And no dawdling.
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