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Has U.S. Democracy Been Trumped? Bernie Sanders wants to know who owns America?

#20981 User is offline   Gilithin 

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Posted 2023-June-24, 07:32

 Winstonm, on 2023-June-23, 18:27, said:

Reuters is reporting that 10 members of the House of Representatives held a secret meeting with Mike Pence trying to pressure him into not certifying the electoral college votes in order to keep Trump in power.

I hope was criminal and they get nailed for it.

This will be treated as discussions regarding business in the House and not result in charges. Take the easy stuff, like DJT openly and clearly attempting to incite a coup, before going for grey areas like this.
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Posted 2023-June-24, 11:13

 Gilithin, on 2023-June-24, 07:32, said:

This will be treated as discussions regarding business in the House and not result in charges. Take the easy stuff, like DJT openly and clearly attempting to incite a coup, before going for grey areas like this.


I doubt DOJ would charge but they could charge as the speech and debate clause specifically exempts cases of felony, and conspiracy to defraud the United States, confraudus for short, is a felony.
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Posted 2023-June-26, 11:07

 Winstonm, on 2023-June-24, 11:13, said:

I doubt DOJ would charge but they could charge as the speech and debate clause specifically exempts cases of felony, and conspiracy to defraud the United States, confraudus for short, is a felony.

Since it was behind closed doors, we'll probably never get a reliable transcript. So they could just say they were discussing whether he could do this, not actually conspiring to do it.

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Posted 2023-June-26, 15:31

 barmar, on 2023-June-26, 11:07, said:

Since it was behind closed doors, we'll probably never get a reliable transcript. So they could just say they were discussing whether he could do this, not actually conspiring to do it.


The Eastman defence?
I was just considering a debating point?
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Posted 2023-June-26, 22:30

Breaking news from the "Intelligence committee".
Senator Rubio protects the people that have seen UFO's.
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Posted 2023-June-27, 10:09

 pilowsky, on 2023-June-26, 22:30, said:

Breaking news from the "Intelligence committee".
Senator Rubio protects the people that have seen UFO's.

I’m immediately taking this to the committee for fairness for bigfoot.
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Posted 2023-June-27, 19:18

 Winstonm, on 2023-June-27, 10:09, said:

I'm immediately taking this to the committee for fairness for bigfoot.


A whistleblower reported that Bigfoot is on the UFO.
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#20988 User is offline   Winstonm 

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Posted 2023-June-28, 07:28

 pilowsky, on 2023-June-27, 19:18, said:

A whistleblower reported that Bigfoot is on the UFO.

LOL.
Bigmouth is here running for president again; he hates off-colored aliens.
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Posted 2023-June-28, 10:59

I thought that Sasquatches become Bigfoot hunters for the fun of it.
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Posted 2023-June-28, 17:58

 pilowsky, on 2023-June-26, 22:30, said:

Breaking news from the "Intelligence committee".
Senator Rubio protects the people that have seen UFO's.


Does DACA apply to ETs who were brought here as children? Seems like it should. Fair is fair.
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Posted 2023-June-29, 12:15

 kenberg, on 2023-June-28, 17:58, said:

Does DACA apply to ETs who were brought here as children? Seems like it should. Fair is fair.


Only if they can phone home.
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Posted 2023-June-29, 13:20

 Winstonm, on 2023-June-29, 12:15, said:

Only if they can phone home.

I would see rather, only if focus groups show they skew Republican. If not, they will for sure not be allowed into the voting pool, either directly at entry or later on through voter suppression.
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Posted 2023-July-04, 07:19

They fear “Predators” and “Aliens”.
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Posted 2023-July-04, 08:55

Today I wish my country Happy Birthday.
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Posted 2023-July-04, 10:30

 kenberg, on 2023-July-04, 08:55, said:

Today I wish my country Happy Birthday.

And good luck; we’ll need it.
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Posted 2023-July-04, 19:36

Make America Great Again with real americans: Cooper or Butler for Mayor in 1948.
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Posted 2023-July-05, 08:40

 pilowsky, on 2023-July-04, 19:36, said:



This reference could spark a long discussion. I finished high school in 1956, that's obviously later than the setting for this film, but it brings back memories. One of my favorite teachers in my senior year was Mr. Tighe. Civics in the fall, Psychology in the spring.

Teachers sometimes supplemented the text with short films, shown on very primitive devices. In the Civics portion, he showed us a film (20 or 30 minutes) about the German invasion of Russia. I remember a line from it" The Germans had not counted on the resistance of the brave Russian people". In 1955 Russia was The Enemy, and my guess is that Mr. Tighe showed this film without getting prior approval. In the Psychology portion of the course, we mostly learned about the role of genetics plus Behaviorism ala B. F. Skinner. But of course a term paper was required. Mr. Tighe took me aside and suggested I write mine on Freud. My response was "Who's Freud?". This led to "Ohh, Ken". I said I wanted to write on Parapsychology. Mr. Tighe reluctantly accepted this. Prof. Rhine at Duke claimed he had established that ESP was real and he was now working on Psychokinesis, I read various things for and against, but I remember in particular talking to a Psychology Prof who said that Rhine's ESP studies had not been reproduced by anyone else or even by Rhine away from his own lab. Very interesting.

Not all of my high school experiences were good, some were not at all good. But there were several teachers that I remember to this day as being good teachers and good people.
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Posted 2023-July-05, 13:28

 kenberg, on 2023-July-05, 08:40, said:

In 1955 Russia was The Enemy

And now The Enemy is China, African Americans, transgender people, poor women and anyone unwilling to lie about elections and The Constitution. It's great to see how far America has come in 70 years.
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Posted 2023-July-06, 04:16

More really sad news from Australia.
"Donald Trump jnr cancels anti-cancel culture tour amid visa doubts" - Sydney Morning Herald 6July2023

Turns out DTJ cancelled his 'talking tour' despite being granted a visa - apparently ticket sales weren't up to snuff.


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Some commentators, including former Labor speechwriter and The Australian columnist Troy Bramston, had called for Trump jnr's visa to be cancelled on character grounds because of his role in promoting misinformation about voter fraud in the 2020 US presidential election and the COVID-19 pandemic.


Just so you know, 'The Australian' is a Murdoch owned rabidly conservative daily here.

Can't imagine who would want to pay to listen to a real estate agent - we've got lots of them - usually they talk for nothing.
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Posted 2023-July-07, 07:47

 pilowsky, on 2023-July-06, 04:16, said:

More really sad news from Australia.
"Donald Trump jnr cancels anti-cancel culture tour amid visa doubts" - Sydney Morning Herald 6July2023

Turns out DTJ cancelled his 'talking tour' despite being granted a visa - apparently ticket sales weren't up to snuff.




Just so you know, 'The Australian' is a Murdoch owned rabidly conservative daily here.

Can't imagine who would want to pay to listen to a real estate agent - we've got lots of them - usually they talk for nothing.


There is nothing “real” about Junior’s speech but I’m certain he has plans made to inherit the estate.
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