Conceding a hand Partner cannot stop his other partner conceding a hand
#1
Posted 2015-September-03, 17:24
I had no say in that and could do nothing to stop it.
The conceding was wrong because I had an ace left and the other pair could not avoid me using it.
The results of the other tables supported this as all were set by one trick, ours was the only single table where the contract was made.
Following an email to support I have been told yes any player can conceded a hand and if ops accept that there is nothing the other partner can do to stop that.
This seems a very unfair rule and can be open to abuse as I believe was in this case.
Does anyone else here believe this to be an unfair rule? if not why not, please explain?
Thank you
#2
Posted 2015-September-03, 23:42
woodych, on 2015-September-03, 17:24, said:
I had no say in that and could do nothing to stop it.
The conceding was wrong because I had an ace left and the other pair could not avoid me using it.
The results of the other tables supported this as all were set by one trick, ours was the only single table where the contract was made.
Following an email to support I have been told yes any player can conceded a hand and if ops accept that there is nothing the other partner can do to stop that.
This seems a very unfair rule and can be open to abuse as I believe was in this case.
Does anyone else here believe this to be an unfair rule? if not why not, please explain?
Thank you
IMHO, this is a careless implementation of the claim function and both partners should have to agree. Also, when declarer claims, all remaining cards should be made visible immediately.
#3
Posted 2015-September-04, 02:31
#4
Posted 2015-September-04, 06:57
#5
Posted 2015-September-04, 07:15
Not sure I would have gone that far though, I was just shocked that it could happen as It could be abused by vindictive players and those just enjoying messing peoples score.
I seem to recall that where those with the contract claim, both ops have to accept but i might be wrong there?
If i am right it should apply to both claims and concedes.
#6
Posted 2015-September-04, 08:00
#7
Posted 2015-September-04, 09:12
Law 68B21: "...if a defender attempts to concede one or more tricks and his partner immediately objects, no concession has occurred."
#8
Posted 2015-September-04, 14:02
So we expect declarer to be honest, and not accept a concession if he can still lose a trick. In tournaments you can ask the TD for an adjustment if declarer made a mistake.
#9
Posted 2015-September-04, 14:21
barmar, on 2015-September-04, 14:02, said:
So we expect declarer to be honest, and not accept a concession if he can still lose a trick. In tournaments you can ask the TD for an adjustment if declarer made a mistake.
If you spent the time to implement defensive objections, you would just allow objections, not show hands, so I'm not sure why you are mentioning showing partners each other's hands.
I also think that accepting a bum concession isn't about honesty, but rather about not carefully working out that you still have a trick to lose when an opponent says you don't.
For what it's worth, rubber bridge laws also allow one defender to object to the other's concession (Law 71C).
#10
Posted 2015-September-04, 16:10
Bottom lime it seems to me is that something needs to change?
I could gayfully conceded hands left right and center if i was malicious enough and my partner it seems cannot stop that, which seems a very sad place to be in!
#11
Posted 2015-September-04, 18:11
woodych, on 2015-September-04, 16:10, said:
You mean your soon-to-be-ex-partner.
-- Bertrand Russell
#12
Posted 2015-September-05, 20:16