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ATB - missed unfav sac

Poll: ATB - missed unfav sac (12 member(s) have cast votes)

Who should have bid more?

  1. W should have bid 4S (3 votes [25.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  2. E should have bid 4S initially (1 votes [8.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  3. E should have bid 4S over 4H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Successful preempt - no blame (7 votes [58.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 58.33%

  5. Other (1 votes [8.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

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#1 User is offline   Jinksy 

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Posted 2016-June-19, 06:10



IMP pairs. 4 is cold, 4X is down 1 (and would have made had S had the A).

Should we have found it? Our overcalls are relatively standard I think - very roughly 9-18 here.
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Posted 2016-June-19, 07:36

Would I, as W, have bid 4S? I'm not sure but I doubt it. At any rate, I voted "no blame". Assuming we can make 9 tricks and they can make 10 (maybe 11?) is a little close. Both E and W have pretty much just what the other needs to make bidding on look good. This does not always happen.
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Posted 2016-June-19, 10:56

LOTT says at least 18 and probably 19 trump between the two hands. Kx below the big opponent hand. Even if K is worth a trick, partner needs 3 tricks to beat 4 .

White versus Red opponents, I'm bidding on to 4 and letting them try to figure out what to do
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#4 User is offline   maartenxq 

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Posted 2016-June-19, 14:04

IMP pairs. 4 is cold, 4X is down 1 (and would have made had S had the A).

Should we have found it? Our overcalls are relatively standard I think - very roughly 9-18 here.
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Much depends on opponents methods. Assuming their 4 is hands like these and stronger hands cue first 4 from west is relatively easy in my view. If opponents bid the same with balanced fits you take a considerable risk but at imps you cannot allow to be blown away.
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Posted 2016-June-22, 13:51

I think E has a double of 4 and then W will bid 4.
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Posted 2016-June-23, 18:22

I think the bidding was normal. As east you know you can get screwed either way (passing out 4H or bidding 4S r/w). It is a good hand to play intermediate jump overcalls, not that that means anything.
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Posted 2016-June-23, 19:34

In my style I would have bid 4!S initially.
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