[EricK]

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I don't believe you Helene, you are just saying that because you don't want an unanimous poll

I also voted for 3♦ and it seemed obvious to me (which shows what I know)!

It may be because of what I expect from the double, but why should I look for a fit in a suit promised by my RHO when I have a minimum hand and a guaranteed fit in partner's suit.

Also I want to make an effort to prevent opps finding their practically guaranteed ♥ fit, or at least prevent them from accurately determing what level to play at.

I think the 1♠ are rather optimistic on two fronts - how their auction is likely to develop, and how their opponents' auction is likely to develop.

Eric

[whereagles]

What's that??

1♠ is 6-10 AND 1 round forcing? That's completely inconsistent.

[Chamaco]

I believe in the system, REDOUBLE shows 10+ but tends to deny a major (or -if holding a major, a REALLY flat 4333 hand), whereas bidding 1♥/♠ shows 4+ cards and, say 6/7+ hcp, UNLIMITED (e.g. a 10+ hcp hand with 4+ in major will not redouble but bid the major instead).

I know some play that with ANY 10+, including a 4+ card major, will redouble first, but I think this is not what the BBO-advanced system assumes.

[Fluffy]

whereagles, on May 7 2005, 08:50 AM, said:

What's that??

1♠ is 6-10 AND 1 round forcing? That's completely inconsistent.

That's right I guess he meant 6+.

[luke warm]

Chamaco, on May 7 2005, 03:55 AM, said:

I know some play that with ANY 10+, including a 4+ card major, will redouble first, but I think this is not what the BBO-advanced system assumes.

if that's true, i need to look at it closer... rdbl to me means, "it's our hand, a penalty double is not out of the question"... this penalty x seems pretty much useless if it's only good for the minors (from responder's view)

[han]

Come on.. redouble with any 10+ hand? You got to be kidding: AKJxxx - Kxx Axxx?? Jimmy, do you really think about playing 1H doubled when you hold this hand? Do you really think "ha, I have 10+ points, the opponents are in trouble"?

Perhaps I would have more respect for this treatment had I been born before it was thrown out of the window.

[han]

Agree that ng's answer is contradicting itself

[luke warm]

Hannie, on May 7 2005, 06:19 AM, said:

Come on.. redouble with any 10+ hand? You got to be kidding: AKJxxx - Kxx Axxx?? Jimmy, do you really think about playing 1H doubled when you hold this hand? Do you really think "ha, I have 10+ points, the opponents are in trouble"?

Perhaps I would have more respect for this treatment had I been born before it was thrown out of the window.

no, not with *any* 10+ point hand, han... many things go into it, but i'd be very surprised if expert opinion on a good defensive, 10-12 hcp, hand in 3rd seat has changed much... read again what i said below, "it's our hand, a penalty double is not out of the question... this penalty x seems pretty much useless if it's only good for the minors" ... so it would be made on a hand that's ours and one in which there are chances to penalize the opps... of course we don't x them if we think we can make more by bidding

nv vs. vul, the bidding is 1d (x) and you hold:

♠KJxx
♥ATx
♦xx
♣KJxx

do you bid 1♠ or do you xx? i'd redouble, personally

[mikestar]

I can't see 2D on this--if we are going to bypass spades, let's go for maximum preemption and bid 3D. This may leave them on a guess about whether or not to bid 4H. 2D is no more obtructive than 1S when we know they are bidding hearts. (2D is more attractive with a stiff club.)

1S is my choice because of the payoff when it is right--we then have a double fit and 4S is very likely a make or a good save depending on partner's strength. At MP I would forget the spades and bid 3D--I believe the frenquency of gain is higher this way,as it is always better when partner doesn't have spades.

I think that 2D should show support and a low ODR: here my AS is equally offensive and defensive and my diamond honors are pure offense.

[Fluffy]

luke warm, on May 7 2005, 06:02 PM, said:

♠KJxx
♥ATx
♦xx
♣KJxx

do you bid 1♠ or do you xx? i'd redouble, personally

redouble: 2 suits with 4+ cards besides the opening suit and 10+ HCP, creates forcing pass sequencec at any level for us.

That hand you posted seems perfect for redouble, only when you had singleton on the missing suit or void, or a 6 card suit you should start bidding them before getting preempted.

[luke warm]

i agree, fluffy

[han]

Sorry Jimmy, I thought you were defending the opinion of the master solver who said that 1S showed less than 10 pts. I agree with your comments.

[pigpenz]

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