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#1 User is offline   maris oren 

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Posted 2020-June-20, 11:13



after N bid of 1 should E bid a preempt weak bid of 2? or pass?
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Posted 2020-June-20, 11:32

View Postmaris oren, on 2020-June-20, 11:13, said:



after N bid of 1 should E bid a preempt weak bid of 2? or pass?


Non-vulnerable, I would choose three diamonds. Vulnerable I think two diamonds will be enough.
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Posted 2020-June-20, 11:44

3 non-vulnerable; pass vulnerable. Quite happy to open the West hand with 2 weak either non-vulnerable or vulnerable, but for making a vulnerable overcall I (personally) need a bit more than a solid suit.
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Posted 2020-June-20, 11:54

A 2 level overcall facing an partner, who was not able to bid,
showes opening values, 10+, in other words the East hand would be
to weak for a 2D overcall.
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Posted 2020-June-20, 23:37

View PostP_Marlowe, on 2020-June-20, 11:54, said:

A 2 level overcall facing an partner, who was not able to bid,
showes opening values, 10+, in other words the East hand would be
to weak for a 2D overcall.


You are quite right. When the OP suggested that two diamonds was a preempt, I assumed that RHO opened one club and did not even look at the hand.

Non-vulnerable I will bid 3 and will be on the fence vulnerable. On balance I think I will join FelicityR in passing, I would probably bid if I had a singleton.
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Posted 2020-June-21, 02:32

Hi Maris. As the others pointed out, 2D here is not a preemptive bid as there is no jump. It is a « simple » overcall. Most players play that this overcall at the 2-level is rather constructive. Something like a 6-cd suit and 10 HCPs or more. Especially vulnerable.

3D would be here the weak preempt, after a 1M opening. Requires a good 7-cd suit and almost nothing elsewhere. NV, it would be hard to resist the temptation with the given hand. Vulnerable it is a bit more dangerous especially with the « flat » distribution. But with 64 minors I would not criticize the bid, though, and would probably do it too.
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