fred, on Jul 13 2005, 04:21 PM, said:
luis, on Jul 13 2005, 02:55 PM, said:
flytoox, on Jul 13 2005, 02:41 PM, said:
'I am almost tempted to bid my diamonds (since our fit in that suit will often determine where we belong),
BUT, if I do so then I may not be able to express my spade support without getting us too high.
I prefer to try to get my hand off my chest anyways.
Perhaps it is my singleton club and not my long diamond suit that partner needs to hear about'
You always have time to show the singleton club, but you don't have time to show a 6 card diamond suit.
Example:
2c - 2d
2s - 3d
3h - 3s
3n - 4c
You showed both a diamond suit, not enough for a direct 2c-3d, 3 card support in spades AND the club control.
You can't describe the hand better.
Disagree.
The bidding has to go exactly as you suggest (ie partner has make the cheapest bid at each of his next 2 opportunities) in order for you to have a chance "show all the features of your hand" at a convenient level.
If the auction continues in any other manner, you are going to have to get to the 5-level to convince partner that you have 3-card support and/or a singleton club.
It is unusual for a hand that could not make a positive response to withhold 3-card support for partner's major. As such, it is my opinion that even the auction that you describe should not be used to cater to these rare (and obscure) hands.
Couldn't the sequence you gave be completely natural? Maybe responder is 2-1-5-5 (and maybe you belong in clubs).
I have not thought this all the way through, but a good general principle seems to be that you should not withhold 3-card support in this auction unless you are willing to go to at least the 5-level.
Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com
I have my doubts about what is worst, not showing the 3 card support of spades or not showing the 6 card diamond suit. While thinking about it I will take your opinion as the way to go since you have more experience but I would like to run some simulations and talk with my pd about what he would prefer me to show.
Luis