[shyams]

MPs, both Red, 4th seat. Dealer opens 2♠ weak (6-cards at this vul). Followed by two passes to you.

You hold ♠Ax ♥Axxxx ♦x ♣AQxxx.

Your call?

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I wont pass it out, and I am usually looking for game, hence 3H.

If you treat it as a 5+ club, 4+ heart hand by bidding 3C, I have sympathie, and it is MP.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[DavidKok]

I play that 3♠ here is 'mini-Michaels', showing 5(+)♥ and an unknown 5(+)m, weaker than a 4m Leaping Michaels bid.
There are a few complications with this option: 1) the forum this question is posted in; 2) the 3♠ bid commits us to the 4-level. Especially given the lack of a raise, partner may not appreciate that; 3) I do not have enough experience with this gadget to decide where the exact boundaries are between 3♥, 3♠ and 4♣ with this shape.

I am not passing or doubling. In practice I would bid 3♠, also to gain more experience with the gadget. I think it's not too far off - we have the shape, and I would be uncomfortable bidding 4♣ LM on this 'aces and spaces' hand. However, 3♥ may well be better.

[jillybean]

Absent any other methods, 3♥ and I hope partner can act.

[P_Marlowe]

DavidKok, on 2025-June-26, 04:19, said:

I play that 3♠ here is 'mini-Michaels', showing 5(+)♥ and an unknown 5(+)m, weaker than a 4m Leaping Michaels bid.
There are a few complications with this option: 1) the forum this question is posted in; 2) the 3♠ bid commits us to the 4-level. Especially given the lack of a raise, partner may not appreciate that; 3) I do not have enough experience with this gadget to decide where the exact boundaries are between 3♥, 3♠ and 4♣ with this shape.

I am not passing or doubling. In practice I would bid 3♠, also to gain more experience with the gadget. I think it's not too far off - we have the shape, and I would be uncomfortable bidding 4♣ LM on this 'aces and spaces' hand. However, 3♥ may well be better.

We also play 3S as Michaels, and 4C/4D as Leaping Michaels, the diff for us is, the Leaping is Nonforcing and could, on rare occassions
be based on 5+/4+ hands. 3S would basically be a forcing Michaels, laying more emphasis on the heart suit instead of the minor suit.
In this regard, I think, 4m is also ok for us, ..., you will end up at the 4 level, but 4m gives you the best chance to play your best fit.

[pescetom]

We don't play the 'mini-Michaels', but in this case I'm comfortable with 4C Leaping Michaels and prefer it to 3H.

[Huibertus]

Not obvious. Even if you play leaping Michaels it could well be a disaster. Partner can easily have the cards that allow us to make 3NT or to collect a decent penalty but not make a game in ♥ or ♣. So for me this is not a leaping Michaels.

If (and only if) you have the agreement 3♥ over partner's 3♦ shows a two suiter (not playing or not strong enough for leaping M) I'd double keeping open both the 3NT and the penalizing options as well as ending up in a rounded suit game. If that is not the case and 3♥ over 3♦ shows a stronger one suiter, I'd bid 3♥.

[mw64ahw]

As a natural bidding discussion you have a choice of 3♣ or 3♥. I choose the Major first and can correct to 4♣ over interference.

Otherwise LM is the punt for me.

[mw64ahw]

As a natural bidding discussion you have a choice of 3♣ or 3♥. I choose the Major first and can compete further with 4♣ over interference.

Otherwise LM is the punt for me.