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#1 User is offline   badderzboy 

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Posted 2007-May-29, 05:47

Scoring: MP


RHO opens 1 Spade...

What do u bid and why?

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Posted 2007-May-29, 05:59

you have a 3315 hand, thats tricky to bid.
If it is 4315 I bid 2 Club
With 3415 I bid 2 Club
With 3325 I bid 1 NT
With 3316 I bid 2 Club.

So with good stoppers 16-18 HCPS and a belanced hand I bid 1 NT, else my longest suit. Yes, not funny, just boring.
1 NT would be my second choice with a lot of hand types, but my overcalls may have up to 18 HCPs and I am surely allowed to have max. from time to time.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 06:31

2C seems aite. edit: thought it was 3316.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 07:42

2C. The hand's not quite good enough for double then clubs. Interchange the DQ for a small heart then I double.

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Posted 2007-May-29, 07:45

1NT.

Nothing else would seriously occur to me. Sure, 2♣ seems obvious as an alternative, but the major problem with 2♣ is that I have too many and too good quality spades -- partner is very unlikely to focus on notrump, and he is very unlikely to view his hand properly for notrump suitability.

I also like very much that third heart, for bidding 1NT.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 08:05

1NT.. you even made it matchpoints for us. What else?
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Posted 2007-May-29, 08:07

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Sure, 2♣ seems obvious as an alternative


With a good 5 card suit and an unbalanced hand?

Wow, what a concept!

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Posted 2007-May-29, 08:16

I'd bid 1NT but if partner prefers me to bid 2♣ with this hand it's fine with me.

What to do if partner bids 2♦ over my 2♣? 3NT, wtp?
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Posted 2007-May-29, 08:30

Double to show 19-20 bal
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Posted 2007-May-29, 08:41

Hi,

2C, the only alternative being 1NT,
but the shape is wrong, and depending
on the range I am slightly to strong.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2007-May-29, 08:49

1NT

I don't have strong objections to 2♣
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Posted 2007-May-29, 09:29

1NT
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Posted 2007-May-29, 09:32

1NT.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-May-29, 13:49

2♣ for me
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Posted 2007-May-29, 13:55

pbleighton, on May 29 2007, 09:07 AM, said:

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Sure, 2♣ seems obvious as an alternative


With a good 5 card suit and an unbalanced hand?

Wow, what a concept!

Peter

I agree with Ken that 2C seems obvious as an alternative but it is equally clear to reject it. 1NT will get you to the best game (almost certainly 3NT) or best partscore (1NT) far more often.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-May-29, 14:23

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I agree with Ken that 2C seems obvious as an alternative but it is equally clear to reject it. 1NT will get you to the best game (almost certainly 3NT) or best partscore (1NT) far more often.


I wasn't quarrelling with 1NT, and I wouldn't criticize a partner who bid it,but I think it's clear that it's *unclear* to reject the only bid that isn't a lie.

But perhaps I'm simple-minded :blink:

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Posted 2007-May-29, 14:39

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I agree with Ken that 2C seems obvious as an alternative but it is equally clear to reject it. 1NT will get you to the best game (almost certainly 3NT) or best partscore (1NT) far more often.


I wasn't quarrelling with 1NT, and I wouldn't criticize a partner who bid it,but I think it's clear that it's *unclear* to reject the only bid that isn't a lie.

But perhaps I'm simple-minded :blink:

Peter

For the record, I personally never claimed that it was "clear" to reject 2♣. Rather, I claimed that 2♣ was an obvious alternative, offering reasons why I would reject the obvious alternative myself.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 14:50

I like 1NT a lot better than 2♣. There are plenty of hands with enough for game but no club support where partner would pass that bid.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 14:54

DBL followed by bidding NT shwos 18-19HCP for me. Distribution is not perfect for bidding immediate 1NT, so I DBL.
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Posted 2007-May-29, 15:38

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1NT.

Nothing else would seriously occur to me.


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For the record, I personally never claimed that it was "clear" to reject 2♣.


Sorry, I must have misunderstood you. It won't happen again. :D

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