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run? is there logic here?

#21 User is offline   jim420 

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Posted 2007-August-11, 03:27

You guessed right, LHO was off his rocker...

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The problem is that I was intimidated by these redoubles too often, and tend to think about running too much, hence the subtitle "whether there's any logic" to deal with these nonsense...
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Posted 2007-August-11, 04:02

It is not just LHO who is nuts Jim, your partner is as well. He does not have an overcall, and he sure as hell does not have a double of 4H.
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Posted 2007-August-11, 04:18

The_Hog, on Aug 11 2007, 12:02 PM, said:

It is not just LHO who is nuts Jim, your partner is as well. He does not have an overcall, and he sure as hell does not have a double of 4H.

Agree. Doing 4-card overcalls myself on occasion I'd have to say bidding on this north hand wouldn't occur to me. Neither should it to anyone else. If forced to make a call other than pass I'd double, not that it's my style to double on this. The double of 4 is pretty looney. As to west's actions I'm speechless.
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Posted 2007-August-11, 07:29

The_Hog, on Aug 11 2007, 05:02 AM, said:

It is not just LHO who is nuts Jim, your partner is as well. He does not have an overcall, and he sure as hell does not have a double of 4H.

lol, West redoubled because he had all the Jacks, North overcalled on a ridiculous four card suit, and South only raised to 2 with 4 pieces and a void in opp's suit and two Aces. East was the only one who "had his bid" (although South had it and quite a bit more).
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Posted 2007-August-11, 09:40

Lol at least I don't have to take all the blame, I'll give it to partner. And I did mention the insane people will get me :P
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Posted 2007-August-11, 09:47

ralph23, on Aug 11 2007, 08:29 AM, said:

lol, West redoubled because he had all the Jacks, North overcalled on a ridiculous four card suit, and South only raised to 2 with 4 pieces and a void in opp's suit and two Aces. East was the only one who "had his bid" (although South had it and quite a bit more).

And don't forget that the director fouled up too...we went from red to green!

I know lots of people who would understand North's X...the "I was just kidding" X, which says "I don't know if they can make 4 hearts, but we sure can't make four spades!"
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Posted 2007-August-11, 09:48

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Agree. Doing 4-card overcalls myself on occasion I'd have to say bidding on this north hand wouldn't occur to me. Neither should it to anyone else.


It depends on your agreements. It sure would to me, in one partnership, where it would be routine, but not in any other.

That said, I wouldn't double 4H with this hand, since 2S can be a yarborough in competition.

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Posted 2007-August-12, 20:15

I am so happy others see hands like this, too. How can you make a good decision when nobody has bid right?

I get "What should I bid?" questions like this about 50% of the time. I analyze the bidding and make a decision. Then I find out the partner has bid so terrible it was impossible to make the right decision. Almost always, a disaster occurs and partner blamed the questioner.
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