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2? 3? 4?

Poll: 2? 3? 4? (23 member(s) have cast votes)

2? 3? 4?

  1. pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 2n kokish (2 votes [8.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.70%

  3. 3d shortsuit (12 votes [52.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 52.17%

  4. 3s preemptive (1 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

  5. 3s invitational (3 votes [13.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.04%

  6. 4s (4 votes [17.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.39%

  7. other (1 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

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#1 User is offline   Apollo81 

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Posted 2008-February-10, 10:55

all red imps

AKQxxx
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1♠-(x)-2♥*-(p)
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Posted 2008-February-10, 10:57

Sign me up for the short suit gametry.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-February-10, 11:24

I'll make a game try too. I'm fine with a SS, but I hate giving the defense a road map, so I might opt for 3♠.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 09:44

3♦

If I have a bid in my methods that describes my hand I like to use it.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 09:57

4S, imo you are losing a ton if you are not bidding 4S with this. A ton. If you make some game try you give LHO a chance to get his X and bid in, or X and X, if he has that. We have no defense, and they could be cold for game w/e. If you bid 4S you can bully him into the 5 level, or tame him with a pass. Especially since most people don't X again nearly enough when you jump to 4 on this auction. Also, the lead or defense against YOUR game could be very critical. If you are actually going to do something like make a short suit game try you are just telling them so much. If you are going to make a generic game try partner will not be able to evaluate very accurately, and I think you might as well just bid game rather than risk missing one, and giving LHO a chance to come in at the 4 level/X at the 3 level.

I feel very very strongly on this hand fwiw. I think 4S is really a winning bridge bid. Put the pressure on!
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Posted 2008-February-11, 10:05

What's Kokish in this context?

I'm all for 4♠ as well.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 10:51

Gerben42, on Feb 11 2008, 11:05 AM, said:

What's Kokish in this context?

I'm all for 4♠ as well.

2M+1 = asks partner to bid the lowest suit in which he would accept a game try, can make counter game tries over response

2M+[2,3,4] = short suit game tries
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Posted 2008-February-11, 10:57

Of course the cool kids play reverse Kokish:

2M+1 = asks partner to bid the lowest suit in which he would not accept a short suit game try.
2M+[2,3,4] = natural game try.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-February-11, 11:30

4♠, but wouldn't be surprised this goes down.
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